I'm not thinking anything huge, like an all nyc herf (CigarFest serves that purpose). Besides, a herf is about putting faces to names and if these B&M guys are saying they won't tell people unless they know explicit details, well, that's just not what it is about.

I've been to Herf's of 5-50+ people, sponsored and unsponsored. With unsponsored ones, we just trade what we've got, a few of us always show up with a bundle or two. Sponsored ones tend to have give aways and raffles.

I say, invite the B&M guys themselves, invite the people you see hanging out, but no need to go any further.

I appreciate you spreading the word though, but we need not do anything more than that. If we light it, they will come