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    Quote Originally Posted by toasty

    I'm sure everyone remembers Nick Berg. Did anyone hear what his asshat father had to say about Zarqawi's death?
    Now hold on there. Untill you've had a son beheaded on video, it's really not your place to comment, in context with his sons death. His political stance was the same before, and after, his sons death, and you're missing his point. You might just be venturing into coulter territory here.
    I don't agree completely with his opinion, but some of it, I do agree with.
    What you should do is, support/attack his viewpoint on its own merits/faults, without placing it in context with his sons death.

    Or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinDVM
    Now hold on there. Untill you've had a son beheaded on video, it's really not your place to comment, in context with his sons death. His political stance was the same before, and after, his sons death, and you're missing his point. You might just be venturing into coulter territory here.
    I don't agree completely with his opinion, but some of it, I do agree with.
    What you should do is, support/attack his viewpoint on its own merits/faults, without placing it in context with his sons death.

    Or not.

    Well, I feel sympathy for him since he lost his son in such a horrible way. And he is free to say whatever he wants. But his loss does not make him immune from criticism. He's free to say what he wants but others are free to comment on his statements and positions. I wouldn't call him an asshat, but I would say is his making political hay from his sons death just like Cindy Shee-me-make-hay-of-my-sons-death-han.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cigar no baka
    Well, I feel sympathy for him since he lost his son in such a horrible way. And he is free to say whatever he wants. But his loss does not make him immune from criticism. He's free to say what he wants but others are free to comment on his statements and positions. I wouldn't call him an asshat, but I would say is his making political hay from his sons death just like Cindy Shee-me-make-hay-of-my-sons-death-han.
    I didn't say he was above criticism. I did say to criticise on his points, without including the beheading of his son. And I would be pretty sure that he would be more than happy to dwell in obscurity with his son.

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    The only reason I brought his son into it is because Zarqawi is the suspected man that beheaded his son. He said it was sad that Zarqawi had died and Zarqawi's parent's had to go through what he went through. How could ANYONE feel sorry for the man suspected of killing your son?
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    Quote Originally Posted by toasty
    The only reason I brought his son into it is because Zarqawi is the suspected man that beheaded his son. He said it was sad that Zarqawi had died and Zarqawi's parent's had to go through what he went through. How could ANYONE feel sorry for the man suspected of killing your son?
    Maybe he walks the walk, and doesn't just talk the talk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinDVM
    Maybe he walks the walk, and doesn't just talk the talk?
    So just because he "pretends" to be sorry, even though he really isn't, that would make it okay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by toasty
    So just because he "pretends" to be sorry, even though he really isn't, that would make it okay?
    How do you know that he's not sincere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toasty
    So just because he "pretends" to be sorry, even though he really isn't, that would make it okay?
    I know next to nothing about this topic, so I'll keep it short. I just want to say that it is possible to genuinely care for someone like that in his situation. I lived in Taber Alberta when a shooting happened in my school. I met the father of the young man who was killed and he genuinely wanted the best for that boy that shot and killed his child. He's a pastor, and I listened to him preach forgiveness for this kid. I have no doubts in my mind that he was sincere. He did everything he could to bring about all the good he could from losing his son.

    I debated not posting this until I researched the man mentioned, but I don't have time right now. Not understanding the situation, I pass no judgement and offer no comment on Nick Berg's father. Just adding an experience to the conversation.

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