Well George I think you're the one who told me to look for hints of oatmeal, bananas, vanilla, sewer rat tails, discarded foreskins, afterbirth and necrotic tissue in my cigars, depending on if I had a premium cigar, dog rocket, or machine made cigar. Good advice, but I've still not experienced the latter four yet. But boy oh boy do I love those sticks with hints of oatmeal and bananas for breakfast....mmmmmm.....breakfast.