this "shrub's for you".....

**thepyrofish** · 06-30-2006, 04:38 PM

I believe POTUS is shorthand that's used by the secret service/military. I could be wrong, but I had a customer who works for the SS and I think that's what he said.

*Shrugs*

bigpoppapuff · 06-30-2006, 04:48 PM

POTUS is hardly denegration.........bush=POS could be....

**Lopaka** · 06-30-2006, 05:13 PM

President Of The United States. And yes, we us it.

**SmokinDVM** · 06-30-2006, 06:08 PM

Real intelligent retorts. No facts or anything of reason to back up your statements. The only thing you left off was "Yo Momma".

Well, Yo Momma!

So all it takes is an accusation for something to be true?

Nice attempt at a redirection, even if it was lame.
Actually, it is FACT that he was a deserter. He couldn't even fulfill non-active pussy duty. All Veterans should be ashamed at having this POS as POTUS, I know I am.

Don't denegrate the highest office (regardless of who holds it) in the greatest country in the world with your internet shorthand lingo.

I wasn't denegrating the office, dumbya has made a laughing-stock of it without my help.

AND I believe you were mistaken and were referring to the 80's as the period of record prosperity for all Americans.

Nope, no mistake, it was the 90's. You know, that period that we had an actual balanced budget, heck a budget surplus. And it wasn't because of RR's and BSr that that happened. Everyone knows, and can see especially now, that "conservatives" economic policies are huge failures.

Now you have a great weekend, and 4th of July.

**ggiese** · 06-30-2006, 08:52 PM

**BigMacFU** · 06-30-2006, 09:08 PM

The balancing act didn't start happening until after 1994, which if I remember correctly was the first time in 40 years that the house and senate were a Republican majority. Tax bills don't get passed by the President, they're written and pork-barrelled by legislators and signed by the Pres or vetoed. Did Clinton have the smarts to listen to his congress and senate at the time yes, and he gets all the credit in the world for that. Another reason for the economy doing so well had very little to do with the government at the time though, it had to do with the technology sector taking off and finally becoming what it was meant to be. Let's be honest, if the government was holding the economy's hand the whole way in the 90's, they wouldn't have had to go after Gates so bad over a non-issue (having to package Navigator with Winblows, I mean, that's like saying every 6-pack of coke has to have a pepsi in it, and unfortunately, this is how they got Gates to pay up) except that they wanted all the money that was not going into the government's tax coffers.

**bluesman455** · 07-01-2006, 01:31 AM

shrubs?...beware of the Giant Hogweed.

**SmokinDVM** · 07-01-2006, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by BigMacFU

The balancing act didn't start happening until after 1994, which if I remember correctly was the first time in 40 years that the house and senate were a Republican majority..

Yes, and look how quickly they f'ed it up.
And, according to prevailing neocon "logic", the prosperity immediately following the Dems loss of Congressional control would have to be attributed to the Dems.

**BigMacFU** · 07-01-2006, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by SmokinDVM

Yes, and look how quickly they f'ed it up.
And, according to prevailing neocon "logic", the prosperity immediately following the Dems loss of Congressional control would have to be attributed to the Dems.

Read the post, the prosperity I attributed to neither Dem nor Repub, government had little to do with it, except maybe science and research grants made during the 70's and 80's, and even then, still very little to do with it. But, the balancing of the budget was the result of a republican congress and senate with Clinton getting the credit for not playing partisan games and signing off. I may care nothing for Clinton as a virtuous person, I may think very little of his foreign policy (talk to anybody involved with Russia and how Clinton did with that), but when it came to getting a republican legislature to work with a democratic executive, he did a very good job.

On an aside I don't care what particular sides say neo-con, whack job blabbering liberals, for all I care they can both go kiss my ass, and anyone who argues strictly along those lines can too, I prefer independent thinkers who can think about issues, not parties when it comes to actual debate on particular issues. I don't care what this or that group says (their prevailing logic), I care what you'll say. If it lines up with good reason, I'm in your boat, if I find fault, I'll stay in mine. Either way, let us not muck up true political or historical discussion with the lines parties want to draw or the media wants to draw. They're the only ones who need those lines, if they didn't exist papers wouldn't sell and people wouldn't donate so easily to this or that group, and when it comes to the media and politicians, only one thing drives them these days, money. So, screw the way the want us to talk about politics.

**ctc315** · 07-02-2006, 08:28 PM

WHO THE FUCK IS KELLY KRAMER AND WHY SHOULD I GIVE A FUCK???

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bigpoppapuff · 07-02-2006, 08:55 PM

sheeesh...my pal chuck seems wound a bit tight tonight.....

**slcraiders** · 07-02-2006, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

sheeesh...my pal chuck seems wound a bit tight tonight.....

I was thinking the same thing. Either that, or that I was reading one of my own posts.

BPP, Is this remedied with fiber? Being in the "politics" section, I somehow doubt it...

**ctc315** · 07-02-2006, 09:12 PM

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT I AM NOT WOUND TOO TIGHT I AM JUST SITTING HERE DRINKING ESPRESSO SMOKING CIGARS AND DRINKING MORE ESPRESSO NO I AM NOT WOUND TO TIGHT ABSOLUTLY NOT NOPE NO WAY JOSE NOT GONNA DO IT WELL HERE WE GO AGAIN ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY WHAT IS IS I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT YOUNG LADY I VOTED FOR IT AGAINST IT AFTER I VOTED FOR IT NOPE I AM NOT WOUND TOO TIGHT WAIT I GOTTA REFILL MY ESPRESSO MUG

bigpoppapuff · 07-02-2006, 09:18 PM

tea might be the answer.....

**ctc315** · 07-02-2006, 09:23 PM

**Shelby07** · 07-02-2006, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

tea might be the answer.....

...followed by a couple of fucking beers and a qualude or two!!!

Long live Sam Kennison!!!

**ctc315** · 07-02-2006, 09:39 PM

Just a couple???? (I saw Sam Kinison here in Syracuse, amazingly funny guy)

bigpoppapuff · 07-02-2006, 09:44 PM

i had the opportunity to party with sam three times that he was in buffalo...and hung around with him at the club whwn he was here for the weekend......i have stories...

**Lopaka** · 07-02-2006, 10:13 PM

Sam in the Man!! Still listen to his comedy and LMAO everytime!

**Shelby07** · 07-02-2006, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

i had the opportunity to party with sam three times that he was in buffalo...and hung around with him at the club whwn he was here for the weekend......i have stories...

Now I gotta get out there and hear the stories! Kennison was one of my favorites. I'd laugh so hard I'd cry.