Ashton Cabinet series VSG Review

[DarkPantherOSX]

I'd really like to try and Ashton. They sound like a very nice smoke.
I better go pick some up.

[MMAB]

Arturo Fuente Double Chateau's with the sungrown wrapper.

I know that at one time Fuente owned half of Ashton but I don't believe they do any longer, but still do blending for them.

I'm a big lover of sungrown wrappers.

Also, if you can get them, try the new Rocky Patel sungrown stuff too. I'm smoking a RP Sungrown Churchill right now and they're grrrrrrrreat!

[CoventryCat86]

Nice review but awfully hard to read and follow with all your spelling errors.

[Roham]

Good reply Coventry.... You're

[CoventryCat86]

Good reply Coventry.... You're

And you're too

[labmonkey]

Hey Coventrycat, you seem to have a lot to offer here, and I feel like it will be great to have you as a member of this group, but not if your main objective is to hang around and use the boards to get back at members who have wronged you in some way.

Just my opinion, but I think your point has been made, get off Carlos' back, and let's stay civil here. so far the one thread you have been heavily involved in has been closed....not a good record so far.

If you have a beef with someone take it to PM or email. We should RESPECT everyone here.

As I said, just my opinion, and I don't mean any disrespect, I just enjoy keeping things cool here.

[ggiese]

Hey Coventrycat, you seem to have a lot to offer here, and I feel like it will be great to have you as a member of this group, but not if your main objective is to hang around and use the boards to get back at members who have wronged you in some way.

Just my opinion, but I think your point has been made, get off Carlos' back, and let's stay civil here. so far the one thread you have been heavily involved in has been closed....not a good record so far.

If you have a beef with someone take it to PM or email. We should RESPECT everyone here.

As I said, just my opinion, and I don't mean any disrespect, I just enjoy keeping things cool here.

LM,

CoventryCat has a TON to offer (not just spelling lessons ). If you knew him, you'd know him to be a very knowledgeable cigar smoker. He has opinions, as do we all. He's also who you want on a board so that a question can be answered knowledgeably. And I don't believe, as far as I know, Oblik has wronged CoventryCat in any way - as a matter of fact, from the posts I see it seems Oblik feels wronged by CoventryCat, Mogheson and Dave.

Others, aside from CoventryCat, have offered opinions that have offended Carlos and a thread was locked. No further discussion on the subject... Why? If there was nothing to the information presented, wouldn't it just die? Instead, repressing the comments only leads to it spilling into other threads (such as what's going on here).

So lets be civil and go to PM. Sure - that'll put a nice face on the problem. But does it resolve the problem? I'd venture to say in most cases it will... But, then again, the whole bad trader list resulted from trades gone south, e-mails and PM's being sent - and the issue not being resolved - REPEATEDLY. I sincerely hope anyone who thinks about screwing someone over on a trade, on purpose or not, will think twice because there are those like CoventryCat and Dave, and others like them out there who are looking out for the community!!!

I hope I'm not offending anyone with my posts - it's not intended to be that way.

[Drake]

Nice review but awfully hard to read and follow with all your spelling errors.

no one else seems to really care if there are spelling mistakes in people's post. you've already pointed out that he's not a strong speller. there's no need in doing it again except just to piss someone off. ya know what: i don't use the shift key. i type in all caps at work so its become a habit i can't seem to break. you should comment on that every time i post if it makes you feel like more of man. i come here to discuss cigars and other things and have friendly conversation. not to read this immature, unnecessary childishness.


can't we all just get along?

[Oblik]

Nice review but awfully hard to read and follow with all your spelling errors.

Why hello, moheganson!! Long time no see. How is the master speller doing?? I see you have now joined forces with dave to screw with me eh... Welll you pretty little list is nice but there is no just cause for it. The people here know how I am and will not listen to your childish atacks on me. You visit, as short as it my be, will be enjoyed Mo.

[Dave Razz]

I have not teamed up with anyone....us botl have to stick together if that is what you mean. I alone did not put you on that list bro...that is not a easy list to get put on. That my friend is the effort of several people you have traded and sold fake Cohiba to.

No attacks, just the facts. You see, the internet is not so big that you can just jump around from forum to forum screwing people and that list, although maybe not important here, is important at most of the forums.

I warned you that your days of trading fake Cohiba are over, but you would not listen to reason.

Back to the topic, nice review. Spelling problems or nat! lol

[CoventryCat86]

Why hello, moheganson!! Long time no see. How is the master speller doing?? I see you have now joined forces with dave to screw with me eh... Welll you pretty little list is nice but there is no just cause for it. The people here know how I am and will not listen to your childish atacks on me. You visit, as short as it my be, will be enjoyed Mo.

I have no idea who "Dave" is, your paranoia is getting the best of you. No one is "screwing" you, you're doing a fine job of that all by yourself by passing off fake Cohibas.

And no, I am not MoheganSon, you Island of the Misfit Toys boys gossip way too much among yourselves. You'd be wise to not listed to idiots like SFG75 and PuroMooch.

[Oblik]

I have no idea who "Dave" is, your paranoia is getting the best of you. No one is "screwing" you, you're doing a fine job of that all by yourself by passing off fake Cohibas.

And no, I am not MoheganSon, you Island of the Misfit Toys boys gossip way too much among yourselves. You'd be wise to not listed to idiots like SFG75 and PuroMooch.

So tell me, how do you know me from LTC? Did I trade with you? No...SFG and "PuroMooch" are terms that only a select few used at LTC.

[CoventryCat86]

So tell me, how do you know me from LTC? Did I trade with you? No...SFG and "PuroMooch" are terms that only a select few used at LTC.

Once again you are jumping to conclusions. I know you from LTC because I used to visit the site as a guest when Zac started all the trouble on CigarPass and YOU started abusing friends of mine who used to post there before the site collapsed in on itself.

I've read plenty of your posts on LTC and stogiechat to know how you behave and you haven't changed one bit here which is very unfortuante.

And BTW "PuroMooch" is a term used by MANY, MANY people on CigarPass, CigarWeekly, CigarSnobs, CigarFamily. PuroBrat's reputation preceeds him and he as you have earned it all yourselves.

Your attack on me today is typical of the way you operate, you come in shooting from the hip without all the facts with a nasty and insulting tone in your posts.

Very unfortunate.......

[ggiese]

Why hello, moheganson!! Long time no see. How is the master speller doing?? I see you have now joined forces with dave to screw with me eh... Welll you pretty little list is nice but there is no just cause for it. The people here know how I am and will not listen to your childish atacks on me. You visit, as short as it my be, will be enjoyed Mo.

Interesting response, Oblik...

You are trading fake cigars, according to a number of independent sources, and you think people are "joining forces" to gang up on you. I don't believe CoventyCat86 has any connection to Dave, that I know of. And I don't know Dave. I do know and trust CoventryCat86's opinions. So, I suppose there are some connections, but certainly not the conspiracy you believe it to be.

From what I'm hearing from respected members of the cigar board communities (much more than just the three of us), I should be skeptical of any trades I do with you. I will heed their warning, unless you can show documented proof your stuff is legit... Of course, it doesn't much matter, does it Carlos. You probably don't want to trade with me anyway. You don't know me, and I might send you fakes.

Lashing out against others, rather than addressing the root of the problem is no way to settle the dispute. Certainly, if you present facts to the well-respected person who put the bad trader list together, your name would be removed. BTW- as far as I know, none of the three of us are in any way associated with the author of the bad trader list, so you can squelch that conspiracy theory as well.

The reason you made the list is very simple. The person who put that list together only adds names if there is proof and documentation. He's respected because he's fair. You, on the other had, choose to lash out at others as ganging up on you and ignore the truth. So now the great banning begins???

I worry about my reputation all the time. I guard it by being honest and fair. I don't believe you will hear anyone down my trade reputation. I believe trust is built through solid respectful relationships. Once trust is lost, it is difficult if not impossible to regain. That's why I conduct myself in a way that establishes and values the relationships I develop.

Think about your reputation, Oblik. It will follow you everywhere!!!

[Oblik]

I would love to speak to the person who put the list together if someone was so kind to give me the info on how to get a hold of them.

Also out of all the supposed accusations that have been made, Dave is the only one to ever come forward.

I did try to make things right with him through email but he has chosen to do this instead. My comments:

1. Sent him an Espledido and a CoRo for Christmas. He loved them and posted on another board how they were the best Cubans he had ever smoked.
2. Through a trade we traded 5 domestic and 2 ISOMs. I sent him the same 2 sticks that I sent him for Christmas, out of the same boxes.
3. 3 months later I receive an email accusing me of sending him fakes. I argued with him over about 3 emails and finally decided to make a truce. I would send him one of his ISOMs back(the other was smoked already) and one of the same value of the other ISOM he sent. This was his idea. As a "friendly gesture" I was going to include a pack of sticks to apologize for what he thought was a bad trade. All I asked in return was for the 2 sticks in question to be returned to me.
4. What you see now is his response.

As far as the joining forces thing. I know who Mr. cat is and we have a history ourselves(not over trades BTW). That response was directed at him and him alone. This is the only trade that has EVER yielded a response like this. IF there are others I would love for Dave to show me. My trades have always been fair and in this case I was willing to make Dave happy.

As you can see the two of them have done nothing but slander me for the whole day and a half they have been here.


Carlos

[Yeagermeister]

Nice review but awfully hard to read and follow with all your spelling errors.

why do you feel its your job to be the "know it all" on this forum? You must enjoy losing respect on this forum, because you're doing a fantastic job.

[CoventryCat86]

why do you feel its your job to be the "know it all" on this forum? You must enjoy losing respect on this forum, because you're doing a fantastic job.

Well sir, if you were the object of Oblik's past misdeeds and the subject of his personal attacks you'd feel just as I do.

Oblik is the one who thinks he's a "know it all" On the Island of the Misfit Toys (LetsTalkCigars), he started abusing a friend on mine who noticed too that Oblik cannot spell to save his life. Oblik with his immature and abusive attitude told my friend "he could run circles around......" him in "real subjects" like math because Oblik supposedly is some kind of engineer. My friend told Oblik that he doubted that very much since he was an engineer with 20 years of experience in his line of work.

You can keep your "respect" Speaking of which, did you parents ever teach your respect or manners? My guess is no...... This is a huge problem with kids your age these days.

[bigtoys]

Getting back to the TOPIC, I just bought Ashton Cabinets today. The owner of the store recommended them as a medium smoke and said they'd go well with a Scotch or Brandy. I can hardly wait to uncork my Talisker Distiller's Edition single malt (smoky taste, too, from the Isle of Skye) with some friends and try out the Ashtons.

[nhcigarfan]

you're going to like it.

[MarkF150]

I think VSG's are a great cigar. I really like the Illusion, because of the thin ring gauge the flavors are so concentrated. Only problem I have withthe thin ring gauge is that they tend to get a little hot if you smoke them too fast. Oh well, didn't stop me from picking a box up!