California residents must read !!!

**Empire23** · 07-23-2006, 11:43 AM

Damn. %115?!? thats insane. California is going down hill more and more every year.

**SmokinDVM** · 07-23-2006, 11:54 AM

It will only hurt business owners, and those without internet access.

Sad to say that most of these anti-smoking attacks are successful.

Republicans are now MORE likely to want to control your personal life than ANY other group.

**jaewing** · 07-23-2006, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by SmokinDVM

Republicans are now MORE likely to want to control your personal life than ANY other group.

Not the "Politics" forum but I have to disagree. The Republican Party has always been for less government intervention and lower taxes, including the tobacco taxed. While the Democrats have promoted socialism and more governmant programs, higher taxes, and more government control of your money and life.

Not sure where you got that opinion that the Republicans were backing this initiative. Start a new thread in the Politics section as I am sure it would be a lively conversation.

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

**SmokinDVM** · 07-23-2006, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by jaewing

Not the "Politics" forum but I have to disagree. The Republican Party has always been for less government intervention and lower taxes, including the tobacco taxed. While the Democrats have promoted socialism and more governmant programs, higher taxes, and more government control of your money and life.

Not sure where you got that opinion that the Republicans were backing this initiative. Start a new thread in the Politics section as I am sure it would be a lively conversation.

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

I didn't say republicans were backing that initiative, however, many in CA will.
But, Nationwide, republicans are no longer the small government, personal freedoms party they once pretended to be. In case you haven't noticed, they spend more than all the previous democratic admins have COMBINED.

OK,OK, I'm stopping with that.

Look, I'm a card carrying liberal Democrat, and I'm against this proposition. I'm also against gun control and rampant government spending. Go figure!

**jaewing** · 07-23-2006, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by SmokinDVM

I didn't say republicans were backing that initiative, however, many in CA will.
But, Nationwide, republicans are no longer the small government, personal freedoms party they once pretended to be. In case you haven't noticed, they spend more than all the previous democratic admins have COMBINED.

OK,OK, I'm stopping with that.

Look, I'm a card carrying liberal Democrat, and I'm against this proposition. I'm also against gun control and rampant government spending. Go figure!

You and I can agree to disagree on many political issues . . . but this is not one of them. Together we, and everyone else, need to get the word out and defeat this initiative in November.

**prophetic_joe** · 07-23-2006, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by SmokinDVM

Republicans are now MORE likely to want to control your personal life than ANY other group.

Considering I hate both Democrats and Republicans equally I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on this one. When you have one of the largest liberal states making these extreme strides towards fucking the cigar and cigarette smoker it's pretty easy to see where this is coming from. Considering that every republican I talk to is appalled at this type of legislation and most democrats agree with it just shows me even more.

Politicians all just need to suck my nuts.