Looking for Drew Estate Subculture

[nhcigarfan]

I have some La vieja Habanas that where in tubes with a CT wrapper. Not a bad smoke at all.

Oh and Mr. 2 posts, please enlighten us as to the proper use of the term "flavored"

[bigpoppapuff]

hmmm...lemme see if i can remember......jon's original brand was "cimaro"..(i think)..
.......then he came out with "la vieja habana".....a very good cigar,but got caught up in the end of the boom craziness.
lars tetens were doing pretty well and jon and his partner,marvin samel,decided to do the "acid" line...."acid" took off like a rocket...lars couldn't keep pace ........jon kept adding to the "acid" part of the line....then,decided to re-launch "LVH"...not the same as the original,but new packaging and a mixed filled lower price offering....after this,steve saka joined the company and are now offering the current additions to the line...

it's a very hot line...and quite a success story....

jon's name,btw,is not jonathon drew....that's his first and middle name...his last name is Sann......he really is a nice guy....

[Dickson]

This is why you're needed!!!!!!

[drew_goring]

hmmm...lemme see if i can remember......jon's original brand was "cimaro"..(i think)..
.......then he came out with "la vieja habana".....a very good cigar,but got caught up in the end of the boom craziness.
lars tetens were doing pretty well and jon and his partner,marvin samel,decided to do the "acid" line...."acid" took off like a rocket...lars couldn't keep pace ........jon kept adding to the "acid" part of the line....then,decided to re-launch "LVH"...not the same as the original,but new packaging and a mixed filled lower price offering....after this,steve saka joined the company and are now offering the current additions to the line...

it's a very hot line...and quite a success story....

jon's name,btw,is not jonathon drew....that's his first and middle name...his last name is Sann......he really is a nice guy....

Cool. Thanks for the information.

[the REAL mikey]

I would like to apologize to the folks I may have offended based on my remark based on a reaction to the little person who feels all opinions should match his/her own. I have come to find that most cigar smokers make a league of people willing to share and appreciate life, not attempt to belittle someone else's. However, I am glad to hear a spark was started in this conversation to show many sides of Drew Estate cigars.

I just tried the new line of La Vieja Habana, specifically the African Cameroon wrapper, the best $2 cigar in my opinion. The new Chateau Real line... a good cigar that I believe to be overpriced. I don't only smoke Drew Estate cigars, I recently smoke a Ashton Aged Maduro and fell in love (just an example).

I do not feel Drew Estate makes "flavored" cigars. They try there damnedest to avoid that word, and until we know the secret behind how they do it, I will not paste that label on them. What I do feel that they produce is:

gourmet
traditional
spiced
infused cigars

I guess I am glad I came back before losing interest based on a negative comment.

Thanks and good smokes to all who listen.

mikey

[drew_goring]

I would like to apologize to the folks I may have offended based on my remark based on a reaction to the little person who feels all opinions should match his/her own. I have come to find that most cigar smokers make a league of people willing to share and appreciate life, not attempt to belittle someone else's. However, I am glad to hear a spark was started in this conversation to show many sides of Drew Estate cigars.

I just tried the new line of La Vieja Habana, specifically the African Cameroon wrapper, the best $2 cigar in my opinion. The new Chateau Real line... a good cigar that I believe to be overpriced. I don't only smoke Drew Estate cigars, I recently smoke a Ashton Aged Maduro and fell in love (just an example).

I do not feel Drew Estate makes "flavored" cigars. They try there damnedest to avoid that word, and until we know the secret behind how they do it, I will not paste that label on them. What I do feel that they produce is:

gourmet
traditional
spiced
infused cigars

I guess I am glad I came back before losing interest based on a negative comment.

Thanks and good smokes to all who listen.

mikey

So...what is the difference between spiced, infused and flavored, oh knowledgeable one?

Let me ask you one question...do you have any sort of business relationship with Drew Estates?

[Sgt_Smoke]

I would like to apologize to the folks I may have offended based on my remark based on a reaction to the little person who feels all opinions should match his/her own. I have come to find that most cigar smokers make a league of people willing to share and appreciate life, not attempt to belittle someone else's. However, I am glad to hear a spark was started in this conversation to show many sides of Drew Estate cigars.

I just tried the new line of La Vieja Habana, specifically the African Cameroon wrapper, the best $2 cigar in my opinion. The new Chateau Real line... a good cigar that I believe to be overpriced. I don't only smoke Drew Estate cigars, I recently smoke a Ashton Aged Maduro and fell in love (just an example).

I do not feel Drew Estate makes "flavored" cigars. They try there damnedest to avoid that word, and until we know the secret behind how they do it, I will not paste that label on them. What I do feel that they produce is:

gourmet
traditional
spiced
infused cigars

I guess I am glad I came back before losing interest based on a negative comment.

Thanks and good smokes to all who listen.

mikey

If I'm not mistaken if a cigar is infused it means that they put something in the cigar..... it couldn't possibly be flavor could it???

[Lopaka]

DE makes flavored cigars. Period.

[prophetic_joe]

I would like to apologize to the folks I may have offended based on my remark based on a reaction to the little person who feels all opinions should match his/her own. I have come to find that most cigar smokers make a league of people willing to share and appreciate life, not attempt to belittle someone else's. However, I am glad to hear a spark was started in this conversation to show many sides of Drew Estate cigars.

I just tried the new line of La Vieja Habana, specifically the African Cameroon wrapper, the best $2 cigar in my opinion. The new Chateau Real line... a good cigar that I believe to be overpriced. I don't only smoke Drew Estate cigars, I recently smoke a Ashton Aged Maduro and fell in love (just an example).

I do not feel Drew Estate makes "flavored" cigars. They try there damnedest to avoid that word, and until we know the secret behind how they do it, I will not paste that label on them. What I do feel that they produce is:

gourmet
traditional
spiced
infused cigars

I guess I am glad I came back before losing interest based on a negative comment.

Thanks and good smokes to all who listen.

mikey

I can only guess that means meand that statement just shows me how little you know. I did not attempt to belittle you in anyway. I simply stated that not many people here enjoy flavored cigars. That is plain and simple a fact. The person who started this thread was one of the few exceptions to this and you will notice he is no longer around. It is for this reason I believed you were a fan of flavored cigars as well.

I also stated that I dislike Drew Estate. My reason for this is that I don't view Drew Estate as a true cigar guy, he seems to me to be someone who is just darn good at marketing and very good at coming up with gimmicks. Now I have been wrong before and will probably be wrong again in the near future, but this is my perception of the guy at this point in time. He has obviously found and audience though as his cigars sell very well, I however don't like the idea of smoking things called "Dirt, Root, Twig, or Nasty" and what the fuck is Kuba Kuba?

As far as infused cigars not being flavored cigars that is just plain ridiculous. He uses herbs, and flowers and other aromatics to change the FLAVOR of his tobacco, call it anything you want but this is indeed making a flavored cigar. The fact is he may have some other great smokes but I have been hesitant to try them because of the Acid line.

I'll make you a deal though you send me what you think to be the best Drew Estate cigar I will then moke it and give a honest review. If I like it I will send you what you paid for it, if not you're out the cash and the cigar.

I am nothing if not openminded.

[Neko2]

I can only guess that means meand that statement just shows me how little you know. I did not attempt to belittle you in anyway. I simply stated that not many people here enjoy flavored cigars. That is plain and simple a fact. The person who started this thread was one of the few exceptions to this and you will notice he is no longer around. It is for this reason I believed you were a fan of flavored cigars as well.

I also stated that I dislike Drew Estate. My reason for this is that I don't view Drew Estate as a true cigar guy, he seems to me to be someone who is just darn good at marketing and very good at coming up with gimmicks. Now I have been wrong before and will probably be wrong again in the near future, but this is my perception of the guy at this point in time. He has obviously found and audience though as his cigars sell very well, I however don't like the idea of smoking things called "Dirt, Root, Twig, or Nasty" and what the fuck is Kuba Kuba?

As far as infused cigars not being flavored cigars that is just plain ridiculous. He uses herbs, and flowers and other aromatics to change the FLAVOR of his tobacco, call it anything you want but this is indeed making a flavored cigar. The fact is he may have some other great smokes but I have been hesitant to try them because of the Acid line.

I'll make you a deal though you send me what you think to be the best Drew Estate cigar I will then moke it and give a honest review. If I like it I will send you what you paid for it, if not you're out the cash and the cigar.

I am nothing if not openminded.

Haven't posted in quite some time but "no longer around" may be putting it a bit strongly

Honestly the whole flavored vs infused thing is a mater of quality in my head. While both white owl and drew estate make non tobacco exclusive flavored cigars I would hardly call them the same. Vanillin is not vanilla, sunny delight is not oj and a twinkie is not a hand made cake with buttercream. I tend to imply "artificial" when i think "flavored" and "essential ois, herbs etc" when I think infused.

Back to the topic a bit; Anyone wanna trade me some Subcultures?

[drew_goring]

Haven't posted in quite some time but "no longer around" may be putting it a bit strongly

Honestly the whole flavored vs infused thing is a mater of quality in my head. While both white owl and drew estate make non tobacco exclusive flavored cigars I would hardly call them the same. Vanillin is not vanilla, sunny delight is not oj and a twinkie is not a hand made cake with buttercream. I tend to imply "artificial" when i think "flavored" and "essential ois, herbs etc" when I think infused.

Back to the topic a bit; Anyone wanna trade me some Subcultures?

Sorry, I don't think many if any of us smoke flavored shitty cigars.

[prophetic_joe]

hmmm...lemme see if i can remember......jon's original brand was "cimaro"..(i think)..
.......then he came out with "la vieja habana".....a very good cigar,but got caught up in the end of the boom craziness.
lars tetens were doing pretty well and jon and his partner,marvin samel,decided to do the "acid" line...."acid" took off like a rocket...lars couldn't keep pace ........jon kept adding to the "acid" part of the line....then,decided to re-launch "LVH"...not the same as the original,but new packaging and a mixed filled lower price offering....after this,steve saka joined the company and are now offering the current additions to the line...

it's a very hot line...and quite a success story....

jon's name,btw,is not jonathon drew....that's his first and middle name...his last name is Sann......he really is a nice guy....

Very informative post Sid thank you.