As far as a good self defense Rifle I am thinking about getting the Springfield Socom 16 as far as a self defense shotgun go with something like a Remington 1100 Riot gun with extended mag and a colapsible stock as far as a good handgun goes get you a Glock 22 with a handful of high cap mags

Always Remember "It is Better to be Tried by 12 than to be carried by 6"

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Ok let me clarify. I know that shotguns kick ass for home defense, so that is #1 on my buy list. But I'm also looking for a good military rifle that has good distance, reliable, etc, in case we end up having to flee our home and I don't want to get outgunned by....ahem...looters and other undesirables who may think they can outgun someone with just a handgun and/or a shotgun.