SmokinDVM Ban Poll

[CoventryCat86]

bill.....fyi.......YAWN...aren't your cyber muscles all tired out from your power play that didn't work??.....

....the argument is over...let it go...you have repubs that need your help...go get 'em elected.....i hope they all win...really....

Why do you have to be such an asshole? What "power play" Sid? Why start in with the smart-assed crap and insults? I really don't understand why you act this way.....

[bigpoppapuff]

the CC meltdown continues....bill...he's on your side...more sensible...but on your side...

you really need to relax...you're looking silly...

[bigpoppapuff]

bill...mark will be home a bit later..i'm sure he'll respond...in the meanwhile...relax...


i'm going to listen to some music from the 60's....maybe some kinky friedman and the texas jewboys......good old stuff..

[Lopaka]

I'm not voting, however I did mention something about this in July...

/soapbox

I know I'm going to piss off a few people however, screw it.

All these POS political posts coming on this board have NOTHING to do with cigars. I'm sick of seeing them. You want to post your political view, fine, go find a political board and post your views.

I'll quote Hex..

I'm not going to go and flat out ban these types of discussion unless they become a major problem. But I do ask that you use your judgment when making these posts. Ask yourself "How will this topic help us grow stronger as a community of Cigar Smokers?". Think before you post. [/COLOR]

Your political views whether right, left, up, down, over the hen who gives a crap…don't help us grow as a community.

If it helps us grow as a community, please post. However posting something as bait so you can spew your nonsense don't help the boards.

/off soapbox

Then people responded and said that it's in the right forum.

This was my response.

I'm not going to argue whether he is the best or worse. That's not my place. I'll allow the Historians to decide that later. However, last time I check this board is Cigarsmokers.com not letbashbushbecauseIhatehisgutsect.com

None of these political posts have anything to do with Cigars. They don't help the community. I know I'm pissing people off. However, I also know that there are people that are also not happy. If you want to have a political debate...then have one. However, the discussions here are not debates. They are bashing of other members because “they don't like my views and everyone who is a Rep/Con/Right are all neonazi BS.” Debate...then debate. Name calling...that's not a debate. That's 12 year old BS. Don't like my view, fine.

However, I'm the one that's asking what this BOARDS admin is asking...

What does it have to do to better the community.

I'm done.

And now look where we are. A banning poll. I admit that I almost stop coming to the board because of the all the political BS that was being posted. You may say that it was in the right forum but it did start to spill into some other spots on the boards. I said it once and I say it again...

If you want to have a political debate...then have one. However, the discussions here are not debates. They are bashing of other members because “they don't like my views and everyone who is a Rep/Con/Right are all neonazi BS.” Debate...then debate. Name calling...that's not a debate. That's 12 year old BS.

It's really a shame that we have come to this point on this board all because of one forum. I really wish people would just put down the guns, lite a nice smoke, and relax. I have no doubt that someone is going to bash this post, fine. Bash away.

[bigpoppapuff]

it seems to be over...except bill isn't done yet....

[cinda]

After what the bay of pigs did for cigars I am wondering why anyone wants to discuss politics on a cigar board, what good can come of it....

[ggiese]

bill.....fyi.......YAWN...aren't your cyber muscles all tired out from your power play that didn't work??.....

....the argument is over...let it go...you have repubs that need your help...go get 'em elected.....i hope they all win...really....

Ya won, Sid - Ya won!!!

There - ya feel all better there big guy???

Now - would you get to work on that ban poll for me that you promised...

C'mon, Sid - ya know you want to do it - go get 'em tiger...

[nhcigarfan]

I'm not voting, however I did mention something about this in July...



Then people responded and said that it's in the right forum.

This was my response.



And now look where we are. A banning poll. I admit that I almost stop coming to the board because of the all the political BS that was being posted. You may say that it was in the right forum but it did start to spill into some other spots on the boards. I said it once and I say it again...

If you want to have a political debate...then have one. However, the discussions here are not debates. They are bashing of other members because “they don't like my views and everyone who is a Rep/Con/Right are all neonazi BS.” Debate...then debate. Name calling...that's not a debate. That's 12 year old BS.

It's really a shame that we have come to this point on this board all because of one forum. I really wish people would just put down the guns, lite a nice smoke, and relax. I have no doubt that someone is going to bash this post, fine. Bash away.

I like the post.

[ggiese]

it seems to be over...except bill isn't done yet....

You think it's over, Sid? Why - because you SAY it's over?

Yep - you da man, Sid - you da man!!!

Should I shut up now - so you don't start a ban poll for me? What - you skeered, Sid?? C'mon - you know you wanna...

[ggiese]

Interesting that we have a number of members that aren't voting in this - the ones who really matter most to this board.

What's the message in that?

[SmokinDVM]

If you really want to see who causes the biggest problems on CS, you only have to read back through this ban poll thread and ask yourself a couple of questions...

Who really asked for the ban poll? Gee, that's a tough one.

Who just can't seem to let this all go? Again, a real toughy. (hint; answer relates to the first question)

What two bm's (that's board members, don't get yer panties all bunched ) were only able to recruit one other bm to vote with them, and who was it? Jeez, the questions just keep getting tougher and tougher.

What do you think the message is in that?

[Shelby07]

You didn't answer my question.

I have answered your question over and over. But let me try again. It doesn't bother me. So has the board gotten worse? better? stayed the same? Well now, I have seen this stuff come and go. It's current state is one of agitation. but it will go away. This is apparantly something you want to fight about. I am advocating that everyone just try to remember that you used to like each other for various reasons. That's all. I'm not getting into the fray here. I've stated over and over that I don't think anyone is an asshole. I am pointing out the futility of your (and others') attempt to win an unwinable argument. It doesn't bother me so for me there is nothing to take sides on. Does that answer your question, Bill?

Let me put it in a way that perhaps you might relate to...

It takes at least 2 to fight. Everybody shut the fuck up and see what happens.

[bigpoppapuff]

Shut the fuck up and see what happens.

well said,mark...well said!!!

[Shelby07]

If you review Barry's posts in his exchanges with me over the past few days you will find that your statement is not true.

When you throw gasoline on a file it doesn't go out.

[Shelby07]

You can't be serious with this post are you? ...

Now why would I post it if I didn't believe it, Bill

[CoventryCat86]

When you throw gasoline on a file it doesn't go out.

On a "file"

Shelby, you stated something that was not true and I corrected you.

[drew_goring]

edit: cc beat me to it

[Shelby07]

On a "file"

Shelby, you stated something that was not true and I corrected you.

Bill, When I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I freely admit it. Ya got me! - I'm an old programmer. The muscle memory types out "file" very easily.

Let me try again

"When you throw gasoline on a fire it doesn't go out."

So, just in case you didn't get it, quit trying to put the fire out with gasoline while you're complaining that it's flairing up.

As for my stating something that was not true... whose truth are we talking about here? Yours or mine. They are opinions. Last I heard, you can't "correct" an opinion with another opinion.

[CoventryCat86]

If you really want to see who causes the biggest problems on CS, you only have to read back through this ban poll thread and ask yourself a couple of questions...

Who really asked for the ban poll? Gee, that's a tough one.

Who just can't seem to let this all go? Again, a real toughy. (hint; answer relates to the first question)

What two bm's (that's board members, don't get yer panties all bunched ) were only able to recruit one other bm to vote with them, and who was it? Jeez, the questions just keep getting tougher and tougher.

What do you think the message is in that?

"Several" members asked for the ban poll Barry, don't lie like you usually do.

George and I didn't "recruit" or try and influence anyone via phone calls, emails or PMs to vote in this ban poll. I would bet the same thing can't be said about you and Sid but no one cares anyway.

You two continue to show the audience assembled how infantile and immature the both of you are which shocks me.

George made a very interesting point:

Interesting that we have a number of members that aren't voting in this - the ones who really matter most to this board.

Whether you like it or not Barry, there is indeed a "message" there.

[CoventryCat86]

Bill, When I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I freely admit it. Ya got me! - I'm an old programmer. The muscle memory types out "file" very easily.

Let me try again

"When you throw gasoline on a fire it doesn't go out."

So, just in case you didn't get it, quit trying to put the fire out with gasoline while you're complaining that it's flairing up.

As for my stating something that was not true... whose truth are we talking about here? Yours or mine. They are opinions. Last I heard, you can't "correct" an opinion with another opinion.

Shelby, where am I "complaining that it's flairing (sic) up?" Please don't accuse me of something I did not say. What is it with you? BTW, the "(sic)" means you spelled "flaring" wrong.

You stated that Barry has "toned" it down and that is clearly not true if you had looked at his exchanges with me over the past couple of days. If you want to split hairs on the differences between opinion and fact go right ahead but I can guarantee you that a disinterested third party would not draw the same conclusion you did. Did you really read all of Barry's posts over the past couple of days in his exchanges with me? My guess is that you didn't and just shot from the hip and wrongfully concluded that he had "toned it down" when in fact the truth is just the opposite, he was very nasty. Do you consider his action of having an avatar with a gun to a kitten's head and the words "die" to be "toning it down?" He started with that BS only three days ago. That's a fact Shelby, not an opinion.