SmokinDVM Ban Poll

**hex1848** · 10-23-2006, 05:24 PM

You guys know how it works. Several people have PM'ed me asking for this.

**cigarsarge** · 10-23-2006, 05:58 PM

Nope...He has been an "difficult" in the politics section...But IMHO that area is pretty much wide open to say what you think...Just don't bring racist stuff or threats of violence in there.

I say no sanctions...Enter the politics section at your own risk.

**slcraiders** · 10-23-2006, 06:03 PM

I do not agree with most of the political views of DVM, nor do I like his style of pushing. He is compassionate about his views for sure. This is definately not a reason to ban the guy. Barry is like most other BOTLs in all other forums. If he was not active in cigars and just here to serve a political agenda, then I would be for a ban. He has shown other sides to himself, so I vote- no ban...

**ggiese** · 10-23-2006, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by cigarsarge

Nope...He has been an "difficult" in the politics section...But IMHO that area is pretty much wide open to say what you think...Just don't bring racist stuff or threats of violence in there.

I say no sanctions...Enter the politics section at your own risk.

Ken - is a threat of violence an avatar of a kitten with a gun under it's chin with the word "die"? It's in all the threads...

SmokinDVM's Avatar (in case he pulls it down and says, "what???......":

I think that's quite a bit over the top...

**drew_goring** · 10-23-2006, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by ggiese

Ken - is a threat of violence an avatar of a kitten with a gun under it's chin with the word "die"? It's in all the threads...

I think that's quite a bit over the top...

Hmmm...never noticed that before. You must have better eyesight than me.

That is definitely inappropriate, but I don't think should warrant a ban as long as it is removed upon the first request.

**ggiese** · 10-23-2006, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by drew_goring

Hmmm...never noticed that before. You must have better eyesight than me.

That is definitely inappropriate, but I don't think should warrant a ban as long as it is removed upon the first request.

I think after you've been told to take it down a notch, putting something like that in your avatar warrants at least a suspension.

bigpoppapuff · 10-23-2006, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by ggiese

I think after you've been told to take it down a notch, putting something like that in your avatar warrants at least a suspension.

that's fucking weak,george...and you know it....it's a fucking avatar...BFD!!!...

**cigar no baka** · 10-24-2006, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by ggiese

I think after you've been told to take it down a notch, putting something like that in your avatar warrants at least a suspension.

Agreed. Barry seems to take political things over the top all the time, and his avatar is insulting. I wish he would tone things down and be able to state his political views in a respectful manner. I'm not saying you can't fly off the handle once in a while, we all lose control sometimes, but to do so constantly is over the top.

**heftysmokes** · 10-23-2006, 06:08 PM

I don't care for what he says or how he says it.
I think he's pretty rude and condescending.
I think he doesn't show any respect to Republicans who are reasonable, well-spoken individuals (and, no, I'm not saying all Rebublicans are.)
I think he makes Dem's like myself look bad.

But-
It's a free country, he keeps it in the politics section, and the ignore control works.

**stjohnroe** · 10-23-2006, 06:12 PM

Ehh? I just read the cigar posts.

**Dickson** · 10-23-2006, 06:17 PM

If SLC and Sarge vote no, and are in my opinion great BOTL's. I have to agree.

bigpoppapuff · 10-23-2006, 06:20 PM

sucks pretty bad that someone would be put up for a ban for exercising his right....barry's involved in the newbie deal,the birthday club,and other cigar related things...he's freely offered med advice for our pets and has,on more than one occasion, called this bb his home board...i think it's pretty pussy for some to ask for his banning.
seeing that i invited him here,i'd have to think twice about sticking around.....
you may not like what he says..or the way he says it..but is bill any better??...i think not...
sorry bill....but you've hit bottom with this..

**Dickson** · 10-23-2006, 06:23 PM

And yet another........

**CoventryCat86** · 10-23-2006, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

sucks pretty bad that someone would be put up for a ban for exercising his right....barry's involved in the newbie deal,the birthday club,and other cigar related things...he's freely offered med advice for our pets and has,on more than one occasion, called this bb his home board...i think it's pretty pussy for some to ask for his banning.
seeing that i invited him here,i'd have to think twice about sticking around.....
you may not like what he says..or the way he says it..but is bill any better??...i think not...
sorry bill....but you've hit bottom with this..

There is a huge difference between Barry and anyone else around here. He's been asked politely to refrain from the personal attacks and to tone it down and he has not. He is completely unreasonable and lies constantly about those who disagree with him.

Oh and Sid, where do you get this from?

sorry bill....but you've hit bottom with this

Read hex's post again, you know that part where it says "several people have asked for this."

bigpoppapuff · 10-23-2006, 06:35 PM

sorry bill...you stepped in shit...you're game is getting old....i can read,bill...

what happens if barry doesn't get banned??...will you pack up your bags and leave in a hissy-fit??

this isn't my board and it sure as hell isn't yours.....you've been just as nasty as barry has ...but barry has backed off...you haven't....

i checked all my spelling so that tired act of yours is moot..

**CoventryCat86** · 10-23-2006, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

sorry bill...you stepped in shit...you're game is getting old....i can read,bill...

what happens if barry doesn't get banned??...will you pack up your bags and leave in a hissy-fit??

this isn't my board and it sure as hell isn't yours.....you've been just as nasty as barry has ...but barry has backed off...you haven't....

i checked all my spelling so that tired act of yours is moot..

Damn it boy, settle down.

YOU are the one who said this:

seeing that i invited him here,i'd have to think twice about sticking around.....

That sure sound a heck of a lot more like someone who will pack up his bags and leave in a hissy-fit.

And no Sid, Barry had not "backed off" if anything he's gotten worse.

**drew_goring** · 10-23-2006, 06:36 PM

I vote no Ban. His comments are being kept to the political forum, and he is not breaking any rules in this forum. Now I could see if this was spilling over into other cigar discussion, but it is not, and SmokingDVM is a contributing memeber. I won't go as far as to say that I agree with him, but here is a quote from the politics forum:

Although this forum was created for any political conversation. #7 is the reason this board was set up. If you don't want to be a part of these discussions, don't read these threads.

Reading and responding is optional.

**CgarDan** · 10-23-2006, 06:55 PM

I know Barry is a great guy. So some of us don't agree with his political views and opinions as well as his argumentative style. You know something I could care less.

I have seen too many battles being fought in the politics forum and too many people get hurt for no reason so if anything I would vote to ban the politics forum,

Think for a second if Barry or any of the others who have had arguments there were ever blamed for the stuff they did in any of the cigar related threads.

Honest I am almost digusted that you guys act just like any pro and against sides whether it be abortion, same sex relationships or SMOKING!!!!!!!!! These battles are never won only casualties are the result of this hate You all want others to be tolerant of your smoking hobby while it may irritate the hell out of a lot of people why not be tolerant of others' political views

Be grownups for god's sake if you don't like what people think at your place of work you don't vote to have them fired you just don't talk to them about those topics If your family member annoys you you don't have them disowned you learn to steer the other way When you attend a football game you cheer for your team next to the guy who you might have nothing else in common and maybe you don't Well guess what we all love cigars so if we have an argument let's have it on the grounds of whether OPUS or VSG is a better smoke at least we will smoke 2 great sticks at the end

**ggiese** · 10-23-2006, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

sucks pretty bad that someone would be put up for a ban for exercising his right....barry's involved in the newbie deal,the birthday club,and other cigar related things...he's freely offered med advice for our pets and has,on more than one occasion, called this bb his home board...i think it's pretty pussy for some to ask for his banning.
seeing that i invited him here,i'd have to think twice about sticking around.....
you may not like what he says..or the way he says it..but is bill any better??...i think not...
sorry bill....but you've hit bottom with this..

I think you'd be surprised about who may have asked for this, Sid. Of course, because of what's been going on I doubt you'll know because I doubt they're going to be posting here much longer. That's a shame...

bigpoppapuff · 10-23-2006, 06:48 PM

....and when some disappear,i guess i'll know,huh??..

lots of other boards....if they go,they go...so be it...so let me guess...it was you and bill,and who else who asked for the ban...??

still waiting for some of the combatants to get involved in some cigar stuff....as barry has...