Look I dont know any of you guys and from what I have seen, this is a great forum. But arguing and bickering over something or someone just because of troubles about some "island of misfit toys" or whatever the hell it is seems stupid to me. I have been a cigar lover for years and I hate to see a neat place like this stained because one member is upset over another member joining, Hell you can do a Google search and all this crap has spiilled over into other cigar forums as well. And its about the same 2 people. All im saying is this, How do you guys think that this looks like to new members such as myself. Its turning out to be a soap opera sorry if i caused any trouble, just felt like throwing in my opinion. Maybe now the whole thing is squashed... I hope so