Thanks for the replies guys. I was telling the guy that I had received some of his house brand cigars when a coworkers son was born. I told him that when I was given them they had a strong ammonia smell (like horse piss)and I almost threw them away. They sat in my humi for a little over a year, and after some (actually a lot) of down time the one I smoked was pretty darn tastey. While I was there I picked up some of their maduros to try, the ones I was given were ct shade color.