i'm a noob here and would like to say this thread is great, i haven't been around much but its threads like these that will draw us in and keep us at a site.

i could have found all this stuff using the search, but it's great to just read it in one thread... thanks very much

loudpipes, this middle of no where iowa isn't around Pella is it? just wondering cause that's where i am and i can vouch that its a beautiful area

smokindvm where are you from? anywhere near the town of tulips?