I'm with ya on these boom. The maduros are no better, imo. However, I'd heard on this board that the Stanford Reserve Camaroon in this vitola is outstanding. I found some in my b&m and they, as are the nat. and the mad., are of excellent construction, and unlike the other two, are great cigars. For me, a little on the light side of medium - a good morning smoke for when you have time.
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