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    The price sheet I get from my distributor does not use the word "Gold" when describing the Exodus 1959's. It does use Siver to describe the Exodus 1959 Silver's and simply refers to the others as "Exodus 1959".

    To further back this claim here is the product list from Torano themselves: http://www.torano.com/cigars.asp. As you can see the Exodus 1959 page makes no mention of the word Gold. However the Exodus 1959 Silver makes it perfectly clear that they are speaking about the Silver edition.

    Anyone (including retailers) using the term Gold to describe the Exodus 1959's is IMHO doing so incorrectly and causing needless confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hex1848
    The price sheet I get from my distributor does not use the word "Gold" when describing the Exodus 1959's. It does use Siver to describe the Exodus 1959 Silver's and simply refers to the others as "Exodus 1959".

    To further back this claim here is the product list from Torano themselves: http://www.torano.com/cigars.asp. As you can see the Exodus 1959 page makes no mention of the word Gold. However the Exodus 1959 Silver makes it perfectly clear that they are speaking about the Silver edition.

    Anyone (including retailers) using the term Gold to describe the Exodus 1959's is IMHO doing so incorrectly and causing needless confusion.

    CC is apparently choosing to ignore this post since it does not further his argument that SFG75 is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labmonkey
    CC is apparently choosing to ignore this post since it does not further his argument that SFG75 is wrong.
    No, hex stated his OPINION, which I disagree with. Scotty is still wrong and the fact that hex states an opinion that supports Scotty's is irrelevant.

    Nice try....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
    No, hex stated his OPINION, which I disagree with. Scotty is still wrong and the fact that hex states an opinion that supports Scotty's is irrelevant.

    Nice try....
    Being that the manufactures ("Carlos Torano") themselves refer to the brand in question ("Exodus 1959") with out using the term Gold would make this statement a fact, not an opinion.

    I move to strike the use of IMHO from my earlier post as evidence supports this statement as being factual, not opinion based.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hex1848
    Being that the manufactures ("Carlos Torano") themselves refer to the brand in question ("Exodus 1959") with out using the term Gold would make this statement a fact, not an opinion.

    I move to strike the use of IMHO from my earlier post as evidence supports this statement as being factual, not opinion based.

    Yet many, many people and retailers use the term "Gold" when talking about these cigars or call them "1959 Exodus Gold" & "1959 Exodus Silver" even though YOU are so well informed, a majority are not, just look at puff's poll.

    You are probably better informed on this little bit of trivia than 99% of the rest of the informed cigar smoking public and just because you are does not mean that the 99% are wrong, it's simply the way the cigars are refered to even though you know better, many do not.

    Tell ya what, I'm sure you've heard of a Jaguar XJ6 which later became an XJ8 but do you know the difference between the following XJ6/XJ8's and what production years they cover?

    Series I
    Series II
    Series III
    XJ40
    X300
    X308
    X350

    Now a smart ass, oh excuse me an "informed" Jaguar owner would say "Oh I have an X300" and if you say "Oh from the late 80's or the early 90's?" should I tell you you're obviously ignorant and/or uninformed because you aren't as smart as me and respond "EVERYONE knows what three years they made X300s" or should I just say "Sorry, it's more commonly referred to as a 1995 XJ6"

    Or I say "I have an XJ6 Coupe" and you then ask me "Oh is it a Series I, II or III?" which to someone with even a fairly good understanding of the difference between the three Series might ask BUT anyone who REALLY knows their Jaguar "shit" knows that Series II's were made from 1973 to 1979 and XJ6 Coupes were only made in 1975 - 1977 so the question answers itself and to the astutest of Jaguar enthusiasts, is a stupid question.
    Last edited by CoventryCat86; 05-17-2005 at 01:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
    You are probably better informed on this little bit of trivia than 99% of the rest of the informed cigar smoking public and just because you are does not mean that the 99% are wrong, it's simply the way the cigars are refered to even though you know better, many do not.

    Not that I know anything about cigars. Still trying to figure out what my taste is. I just have to say something about the above quote.

    When has a fact been a percentage? If Hex is better informed and is right than the others are wrong. Plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel Grinch
    Not that I know anything about cigars. Still trying to figure out what my taste is. I just have to say something about the above quote.

    When has a fact been a percentage? If Hex is better informed and is right than the others are wrong. Plain and simple.
    You're completely missing the point, he may be "right" but to many retailers and cigar smokers who aren't as well informed, many DO NOT know whether you're talking about the Gold or the Silver line when you say "I just smoked a Carlos Torano 1959 Exodus and it was great!"

    I can guarantee you that quite a few people will ask "Do you mean Gold label or Silver label?"

    Please refer to my Jaguar examples, they state my point rather clearly.....

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