For trade: Fiver of Padron 4000 Maduros

[WOXOF]

Just out of morbid curiosoty, could you explain how I "baited" him? By responding when he called me a name, unprovoked?

Sure, no problem...

Care to follow me around in any other of my posts? I could PM you when I post to any new thread so you can continue to insult me.

I called that baiting, CC called it antagonizing. Either way it's not a wise approach.

I for one think you are a first rate asshat for doing this.

If this is what your panties are in a wad about, get over it. You are acting like an asshat for pulling this shit.

[prophetic_joe]

Well the first thing here is you mentioned that you got these cigars out of a mess up from a business. Now imagine you are that business, you just took advantage of their mistake and cost them money. I would be in total agreement with you had you said in your first post, this thread, that you had contacted TNT and they had told you that they did in fact send you the Padrons as a replacement because they were out of Puros Indios, or that they had indeed made a mistake but hey keep the sticks anyway, you did not do this. Calling and being honest with the company would have been the classy thing to do and would have shown the guys here that you were indeed trustworthy, you were actually given this advice by members who have been here awhile and actually know a thing or two about being a stand-up individual. Not following the advice that was given shows that you are more than willing to take advantage of someone elses mistake just to get a bit ahead, would you take advantage of the guys here as well?

[aceswired]

Not following the advice that was given shows that you are more than willing to take advantage of someone elses mistake just to get a bit ahead, would you take advantage of the guys here as well?

Let's just assume everything you said was true. I'm not ready to grant it all, but for the sake of simplifying the argument and restraining it to what's pertinant in THIS thread ...

How, precisely, was I going to "take advantage of the guys here" when I offered to send first? I mean really - read my post. Straight out, I offer to send first, and then a member comes in, unprovoked, calling me names and announcing that I'm not trustworthy.

I'm trying to follow this logically, rather than emotionally. The implication is that I'm going to cheat someone in this trade. How so when I'm sending first? Walk me through that, because I'm not seeing it.

[aceswired]

Don't answer that - I've decided that of the cigar boards I read and post to, this is the one I enjoy the least. I'm out.

[prophetic_joe]

Don't answer that - I've decided that of the cigar boards I read and post to, this is the one I enjoy the least. I'm out.

No one said you were going to cheat someone from this board in this particular instance, what is being said is that knowing it is possible that a mistake was made by TNT and that you decided to try to profit from that or use that to your advantage shows a little bit of your character, and the question then comes up about whether or not you would try to take advantage of one of the members here if the opportunity arose.

With that said, goodbye to you and may you find a cigar forum more suited to your needs and personality.

[hex1848]

A person’s character is one of the most important measures that can be used to judge a BOTL online. We don't know a lot about each other, the only way we can establish trust is to gauge how a person is going to react to certain situations. We trade, pass, even give expensive cigars on a regular basis around here.

This isn't the first time someone comes here and said "a retailer made a mistake, what do I do?". But in your case it seemed more like you were bragging about it then wanting to do the right thing.

You don't need to apologize to us; you need to do the right thing. Karma's a bitch.

[ggiese]

Hey acey-doosey - you've registered at CANNABIS.COM but you're not posted? What gives? I'm sure they'll be far more laid back than us...

[ggiese]

Don't answer that - I've decided that of the cigar boards I read and post to, this is the one I enjoy the least. I'm out.

It really doesn't matter where you post, acey-doosey. The rest of the boards that do not have standup members like Sarge don't really matter. "Ya get what ya pay for" - know what I mean???

[cigarsarge]

Don't answer that - I've decided that of the cigar boards I read and post to, this is the one I enjoy the least. I'm out.

You are a classless prick...Good bye.

[cigar no baka]

Well the first thing here is you mentioned that you got these cigars out of a mess up from a business. Now imagine you are that business, you just took advantage of their mistake and cost them money. I would be in total agreement with you had you said in your first post, this thread, that you had contacted TNT and they had told you that they did in fact send you the Padrons as a replacement because they were out of Puros Indios, or that they had indeed made a mistake but hey keep the sticks anyway, you did not do this. Calling and being honest with the company would have been the classy thing to do and would have shown the guys here that you were indeed trustworthy, you were actually given this advice by members who have been here awhile and actually know a thing or two about being a stand-up individual. Not following the advice that was given shows that you are more than willing to take advantage of someone elses mistake just to get a bit ahead, would you take advantage of the guys here as well?

Exactly. Your first mistake here was revealing that you feel no shame at taking full advantage of a vencdor mistake. That speaks volumes about you, and makes me as well as a few others instantly feel mistrust and doubt that you would be trustworthyto deal with.