ISOM's are the best cigars in the world. These ones they are trying to sell you are not legit.
ISOM's are the best cigars in the world. These ones they are trying to sell you are not legit.
Actually they most likely are legit in a sense. They are rolled with pre-embargo tobacco. However this could mean that a bit of the stuff is sprinkled in. And who knows the quality of the tobacco, or how it was stored for the past 50 or so years.
From what I understand, they aren't bad sticks, but aren't great either. If you want, try them. If you like them, great. If not, good too. You are only out 10 or so bucks.
{*insert snide remark here*}
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That is extremely subjective. While most ISOMs are very good, I don't think they are the be all/end all. A lot of the allure of ISOMs is that they aren't legal in the US. When I first started this hobby I tended to think that an ISOM would be heads above other cigars that were legal. as the song says, "It Ain't Necessarily So."
The Pre-Embargo cubans have not been given a good reception. From what I understand, bales of cuban tobacco imported into the US before the embargo were supposedly found in some warehouse in the US which makes it legal. There was no mention of the quality, care, or specific origin of the tobacco, only that it was Cuban. Since then a bunch of cigar makers have jumped on the bandwagon and started using this tobacco to roll "pre-embargo cuban" cigars.
That doesn't mean that they are 100% cuban, nor does it mean that they are among the best cigars in the world. In fact, most reviews that I have read haven't been too kind.
While you can buy pre-embargo cigars that were rolled before the embargo and properly cared for, they are very expensive and not usually generally available in your local B&M.
Last edited by Shelby07; 03-21-2007 at 12:43 PM.
Atleast now I don't feel like an ass for my skepticism when I was talking to the shop's owner. Thanks again for the incite.
Keep in mind that pre-embargo tobacco is really, really old.
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I tired one of those pre-embargo sticks, wasn't great they are rolled a little too loose and had quite the acidity too them. The only reason people buy them is because the novelty of the 'cuban' tabacco. When I bought one my B&M owner warned me not to expect much. Genuine ISOMs are pretty good but not the best of the best and are more for the status symbol most of the time. Most BOTLs have a few sticks usually to have in celebration or something like that. Start trading and you may get one or twoI know I have personally sent five and received one!
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Last edited by jiaguy; 03-21-2007 at 02:37 PM. Reason: spelling monster
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these aren't bad,imho....less expensive than pinar etc.....and they're available through camino viejo (hex)....
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I stand by my words that ISOM's are the best cigars in the world. I have the luxury of being able to choose what I smoke. My friends south of the border who supposedly are free to decide for themselves do not legally have the choice of picking a Cuban or another cigar. As for the pre embargo cuban cigars? How cuban can they be if they were not rolled in Cuba? I have been to the Partagas factory in Havana and it is quite a sight to be seen. Often immitated never duplicated, the saying goes. There is no novelty about Cuban cigars, they are the best, and for many reasons.
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