CoventryCat86 Ban Poll

[Eshaw99]

Really?

I mean, Really???

I haven't been around much lately, so I don't even know about whatever shit is going on. Frankly, I don't care. In the 3 years I've known Bill (as much as you can know someone through various cigar boards) I've never had to wonder what he thinks of me. I can respect that.

[prophetic_joe]

I'm not gonna vote on this because frankly it is plain stupid. I come on this site everyday and read damn near every thread posted and to say that Shelby and BPP have been sitting around quiet as church mice for the past few months while Bill has been hounding them is just plain lying. Does Bill have a history of stalking behaviour? Yes he does, but Sid has been doing some pretty stupid and out of line crap as well, that youtube thing towards Chris just the tip of the iceberg, and for Shelby to come to his aid simply because it was Bill who took Sid to task for it, c'mon that's just as much stirring up crap as anyone else.

Bill you need to knock it off, put Sid and Shelby on ignore and just leave every thread that they are involved with alone.

Shelby you need to do the same for Bill.

Sid you really need to rethink why you're here, it certainly doesn't seem to be about cigars or making friends as of late.

I can't in good conscience vote to ban Bill even though currently I disagree with some of his actions. If Bill is banned the others involved need to be banned as well.

[CgarDan]

I am a newb here and my opinion might not be worth much but if anything I would suspend for 30 days anyone who is involved in these arguments whether political or personal what ever. I joined this site to learn more about cigars and meet people who are into the same hobby. If people want to take personal agendas and spin controversies this should not be the site to do it. If you disagree call each other on the phone or meet in person and argue untill you are blue in the face but stop disrespecting this site. Politics forum should be taken out of the site all together and people who start bashing each other for bad reasons ( and the only good ones are to point out the ones who are trolles, mooches, etc ) should be suspended for 30 days. Come back later and see if you care enough to post on the topic of CIGARS.

Hell if you disagree on what a ceratain cigar should be rated at by all means chew each others head off and hopefully we will learn something good in the process. But these personal fueds are very childish. Either learn to agree to disagree and respect each other or take it outside

[pub spears]

Been here less than a month so I won't vote. Was not even aware of the conflict as I had not noticed it surfacing in the general discussion forums. Credit to all involved there. My choice is to keep the members, but someone suggest how to temper our members without banning. Stupid observation on political opinions: when politics are a topic people oppose, argue and get personal about it. I suggest we leave politics and religion off the table. This is a CIGAR forum.

[ggiese]

From another thread - more appropriately here...

Good post Cinda. At the time of the video, me and Sid were not "bubs". Me and Sid do talk on the phone, but only since 3 days ago. I actually had a pretty good inclanation that Sid did not like me. I chose to go the way I did because I don't like drama and controversy. I graduated high school already. Because of this, I have gained a great friend. Some people don't get along, it's natural. But it's all in how you handle it. There are people that I don't get along with (believe it or not ) but it's up to you how you handle it. You can avoid the person and just not talk to them. It's that easy. Agree to disagree.

I hate seeing this board go through something like this. It seriously bothers me throughout my day. I don't want Mark to leave, I don't want anyone to leave as long as they behave and treat these people like they are real people. Like I read before, we are on a message board, but this is where we meet up to talk. We are friends beyond the internet. I have gotten an insane amount of help from people here and I hope that I can do the same. It would break my heart to see someone leave. I love this place, as if you can't tell.

I've known all of the players for quite some time - BPP and CC the longest. I've been on this board from near its inception. I've known Shelby since he first came on the boards...

I gotta tell ya - my reasoning for supporting Bill during this mess is because of what I know about the dynamics of what is going on. It entirely pisses me off when the person who is facing us is not the same person behind the scenes. And I don't mean what a nice guy he is behind the scenes. It's a tad more sinister than that.

Shelby is a side casualty of this mess. I would like to believe it has to do with his ignorance to cigar boards - or his assumptions about people's intentions.

I guess time will tell, right?

[Baron Porthos]

Now we can vote to ban him but, I think he has a lot to contribute. We know there is an off switch somewhere. Bill has been cheered for his recognition of assholes and confrontation of said assholes. When that gets out of line hex has asked him to reign it in but he has not responded to hex. I think until he responds we should keep the door open. Embrace the audacity of hope.


Baron

[Monk]

I am a newb here and my opinion might not be worth much but if anything I would suspend for 30 days anyone who is involved in these arguments whether political or personal what ever. I joined this site to learn more about cigars and meet people who are into the same hobby. If people want to take personal agendas and spin controversies this should not be the site to do it. If you disagree call each other on the phone or meet in person and argue untill you are blue in the face but stop disrespecting this site. Politics forum should be taken out of the site all together and people who start bashing each other for bad reasons ( and the only good ones are to point out the ones who are trolles, mooches, etc ) should be suspended for 30 days. Come back later and see if you care enough to post on the topic of CIGARS.

Hell if you disagree on what a ceratain cigar should be rated at by all means chew each others head off and hopefully we will learn something good in the process. But these personal fueds are very childish. Either learn to agree to disagree and respect each other or take it outside