OK, enough bullshit.

**Shagaroo** · 04-17-2007, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

I've been here a year... the board has been in existance for 2.

Just how long does it take to "earn" respect here?

Some, clearly, longer than others. Some, never earn it.

You clearly still don't get that it is not about post count and registration date. Sad really. I like ya when you aren't melting down and think you could still have a positive future here. Doubt you will ever see it though.

**Shelby07** · 04-17-2007, 04:54 PM

...oh yeah, Shaggy... judging by the number of PM's I've received there seem to be quite a few members here who have had dealings with me and "respect" me.

You haven't been around too much, I'm wondering how you came up with your opinion of me.

**Shelby07** · 04-17-2007, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Shagaroo

BTW, bigotry earns an immediate ban here as well, but your buddy Sid got the benefit of a ban poll anyway. You know, being a FOG and all. Shame he couldn't recruit enough non-active folks over to save him. Guess it's cool when your buddy gets more latitude than some 90 day wonder, but not others... Gotcha!

Damn, here we go again with "Sid" this and "Sid" that. I ain't Sid. It's an old trick called "guilt by association." Bill has already tried it...

But this post does give me an idea Shaggy... Let's have a poll to see who wants these folks outed. You wanna start it?

**ggiese** · 04-17-2007, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

Aaron - I have asked Hex for just 2 things in the year that I have been here. I believe them to both be reasonable requests...

1. Get Bill off of my back so I can enjoy this board and the people on it.

2. Reveal who was abusing the rules so I know about the people I may be trading and gifting cigars to.

Please, Shelby - really... You don't want Bill off your back - you want to challenge Bill - you even said so - so why are you insisting you want that as a "reasonable request".

I'm really trying to grasp this concept that trading and gifting cigars somehow has something to do with someone who may or may not have multiple accounts? Do you believe it to be a trust issue? Having multiple accounts no more equates to being a scammer, any more than it equates to being honorable.

Sorry, Shelby - but underlying your apparent calm, rational demeanor is this obvious need to cleanse the community of one person. Even more apparent is your need to do it NOW - after the community has clearly made decisions about who should go and who should stay. And you are doing it in a way that is baiting and confrontational - despite your best efforts to try to "convince" others it is not that way.

...and you do have a thin skin - despite what you say. It's clearly obvious from your disdain for certain words that you find offensive. C'mon - if you're not a "liar" or a "bigot" - why would you be so offended unless you're absolutely thin skinned. Grow a pair, would ya??

Shelby - Hex does not like the direction the board is heading at the present time. Your attempting to drive the bus in that direction does not at all help the situation. You're a mature adult - you just might want to consider leaving in dignity, rather than acting like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

**ggiese** · 04-17-2007, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

...just curious how that makes others who are not FOGs feel???

There ya go driving that bus again...

**ggiese** · 04-17-2007, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

...oh yeah, Shaggy... judging by the number of PM's I've received there seem to be quite a few members here who have had dealings with me and "respect" me.

You haven't been around too much, I'm wondering how you came up with your opinion of me.

Ya bragging about the army of supporters you have now??

BIG CLUE: Having an inbox full of PM's does not make you a respected member either...

**Shelby07** · 04-17-2007, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by ggiese

...Shelby - Hex does not like the direction the board is heading at the present time. Your attempting to drive the bus in that direction does not at all help the situation. You're a mature adult - you just might want to consider leaving in dignity, rather than acting like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

Yet Hex has been strangly quiet. What do you know that the rest of us don't?
I've PM'd Hex and asked him to call me. He can speak for himself.

**Shelby07** · 04-17-2007, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by ggiese

Ya bragging about the army of supporters you have now??

BIG CLUE: Having an inbox full of PM's does not make you a respected member either...

I have no problem with my reputation on this board.

**ggiese** · 04-17-2007, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

I have no problem with my reputation on this board.

Therein lies the problem...

Hey - I hear TBS cigars is looking for some members that have respect. You'd be HIGHLY respected over there, Shelby in very short order! ...and there are QUITE a few that hate Bill as well. Why don't you give that place a whirl!!!

**ggiese** · 04-17-2007, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

Yet Hex has been strangly quiet. What do you know that the rest of us don't?
I've PM'd Hex and asked him to call me. He can speak for himself.

Maybe more than you would presume to know - I've been here longer than a year.

**Shelby07** · 04-17-2007, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by ggiese

Therein lies the problem...

Hey - I hear TBS cigars is looking for some members that have respect. You'd be HIGHLY respected over there, Shelby in very short order! ...and there are QUITE a few that hate Bill as well. Why don't you give that place a whirl!!!

Actually, I don't see a problem. My "user reputation" in my profile is actually pretty good (other than Bill's little ding which I don't really care about.)

**Shelby07** · 04-17-2007, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by ggiese

Maybe more than you would presume to know - I've been here longer than a year.

Well, hell then. Why don't you fill us in?

**Shelby07** · 04-17-2007, 06:49 PM

You know George, It's really too bad that you won't let Bill stand on his own. I really have no beef with you and don't want to start one, but I was wondering how long it would take for Bills posse to come riding in.

**Shagaroo** · 04-17-2007, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

Damn, here we go again with "Sid" this and "Sid" that. I ain't Sid. It's an old trick called "guilt by association." Bill has already tried it...

But this post does give me an idea Shaggy... Let's have a poll to see who wants these folks outed. You wanna start it?

When you post on Sid's behalf, it becomes more than guilt by association.

And respect from those who have none to give doesn't amount to much.

Why do I need a poll? I made my feelings known to Hex. Unlike you, I know Hex is a very smart guy who will handle it how he sees fit.

**WhiteWidow** · 04-17-2007, 08:00 PM

This is gay.

**kevin7** · 04-17-2007, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

I've PM'd Hex and asked him to call me.

Really? That's sad man ,calling up the owner to whine in his ear. About a freakin cigar board . Thats really sad man

**ggiese** · 04-17-2007, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

Actually, I don't see a problem. My "user reputation" in my profile is actually pretty good (other than Bill's little ding which I don't really care about.)

...there's another extremely accurate measure of reputation! And I suppose your eBay rating is 100% too!!!

**ggiese** · 04-17-2007, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by kevin7

Really? That's sad man ,calling up the owner to whine in his ear. About a freakin cigar board . Thats really sad man

C'mon, Kevin - shelby's tried every other means of communication on this board to get Hex to do something. Nothing else works - he's getting really, really frustrated - so he's gotta get Ma Bell involved...

What's next after the call, shelby - you gonna drop by Hex's house and play parchese with him??

**ggiese** · 04-17-2007, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by WhiteWidow

This is gay.

That's what I keep hearing about Jeff Gordon - but he keeps ending up with some pretty outstanding looking young ladies!!!

**ggiese** · 04-17-2007, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

You know George, It's really too bad that you won't let Bill stand on his own. I really have no beef with you and don't want to start one, but I was wondering how long it would take for Bills posse to come riding in.

Waaahhhh... Waaaahhhh... Mommy - make the bad man go away!!!