Funny thing you say this cause I just had my 1st one yesterday ! I got the 5 x 54 Robusto Naturals (but they look very nice & dark) 20 for $25 ! They are cool looking stog's, flat like boxpressed ! I was fooled by the green label though..I had mine on an empty stomach ! Overall, it was good & the $ was right, but this bundle will last me awhile ! I like something with a smoother taste..they just didnt (or I didnt) have it , but I wil try another cause i like the way they are so flat pressed ! Glad I did get them since im new & need to try everything in sight ! Who know's...next month I may be buying a ton of these babys ! Also, have you tried the Vela 500's from CC ? I got a bundle of those & thought they were good , but I had to cut it deepto get a good draw, but u may like them !