Bhk 54s real or fake

**bigbill1300** · 03-29-2011, 10:04 PM

Are these real or fake,The picture is kind of hard to see it was sent to my cell phone.

**Eville** · 03-29-2011, 10:09 PM

Uhhhhh...

**b.read** · 03-29-2011, 10:19 PM

Not sure about everyone else, but it'd be more fun to play the guessing game with these:

Just my two pennies

**bigbill1300** · 03-29-2011, 10:22 PM

Nice It would not bother me if those were fake. I would take them anyway.

**b.read** · 03-29-2011, 10:23 PM

Yessir!

**heftysmokes** · 03-29-2011, 10:34 PM

Can't tell with a picture that size but I was temporary keeper of two boxes of bhk's from a distributor I know to be legit and am skeptical. Can you get some better pics, not only of the cigars, but of the packaging?

And even if everyone on this board agrees they are legit, I hope you're not going to try to sell them anytime soon.

**bigbill1300** · 03-29-2011, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by heftysmokes

Can't tell with a picture that size but I was temporary keeper of two boxes of bhk's from a distributor I know to be legit and am skeptical. Can you get some better pics, not only of the cigars, but of the packaging?

And even if everyone on this board agrees they are legit, I hope you're not going to try to sell them anytime soon.

The picture was sent to my cell so this is the best I can do,but I can take a picture of the 52 with my digital camera and email it to you. If I emailed this one maybe you can see it a little better.

garryyjr · 03-29-2011, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by b.read

Not sure about everyone else, but it'd be more fun to play the guessing game with these:

Just my two pennies

Yes, better this way to play.

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**craig** · 03-30-2011, 07:36 AM

We play this game a lot less now.

The black cardboard box that the Behike box came in has all of the usual Habanos seals in all of the usual places. (The date code and factory code are on a sticker, but in their usual fonts, and the sticker is in the usual place.) The current guarantee seal has numerous anti-counterfitting measures which can be verified with a magnifying glass and a fluorescent light (if you don't have a UV light).

Yes, all of the above stuff is simple, but almost all fakes screw up one or more of the above. Those that don't are the good fakes (typically from Spain or the Canary Islands), but those now usually fail on the new seal code. The new seal code (usually 13 digits) can be verified on the Habanos.com website. When the code is entered on the website, the website displays the cigar and packaging info for the box.

Note that these checks don't even involve looking at cigars or opening the box, but start with these as anytime these fail or can't be verified ("I threw out the box") then, as always, caveat emptor.

**ggiese** · 03-30-2011, 08:40 AM

There is no way in heaven, hell or otherwise someone could give you a definitive answer as to the legitimacy of those cigars based upon that picture you've provided.

That being said - I suggest you be very skeptical they are legit. Craig gives some great first blush advice to detect about 90% of the current fakes. You should have a person with a wealth of knowledge on Cuban cigars eliminate about another 5% of the imposters. Regardless, you're still likely to be fooled by about 5%...

Good luck with your quest!

**ggiese** · 03-30-2011, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by b.read

Not sure about everyone else, but it'd be more fun to play the guessing game with these:

Just my two pennies

I have a lot of experience in these matters and I vote for real!!!

**mrtr33** · 03-30-2011, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by b.read

Originally Posted by ggiese

I have a lot of experience in these matters and I vote for real!!!

See, I disagree, even though I undoubtedly lack the experience you have. Look how she's leaning forward - then look at her necklace. I'd think, if she was leaning forward to show off the cleav, her necklace would be slightly off of her chest. But it's not - it's laying flat. Which leads me to believe that she's hunched over, from the obnoxious disproportional weight of her bust. Her arms are positioned behind her, in part for balance, but also in part to probably keep her equilibrium stable and not fall over. Also, behind the smile, and even in her eyes a little bit, it looks like she's grimacing, if just a little bit.

**heftysmokes** · 03-30-2011, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by mrtr33

See, I disagree, even though I undoubtedly lack the experience you have. Look how she's leaning forward - then look at her necklace. I'd think, if she was leaning forward to show off the cleav, her necklace would be slightly off of her chest. But it's not - it's laying flat. Which leads me to believe that she's hunched over, from the obnoxious disproportional weight of her bust. Her arms are positioned behind her, in part for balance, but also in part to probably keep her equilibrium stable and not fall over. Also, behind the smile, and even in her eyes a little bit, it looks like she's grimacing, if just a little bit.

Co-sign. That was a thorough and detailed analysis. You must have spent a lot of time, well, um...looking at them.

**badwhale** · 03-30-2011, 10:49 AM

I was thinking "yeah, that (those) look(s) nice, but she's undoubtedly a pain in the ass to somebody" The cigar, on the other hand, gives you no guff when you pull it outta the box, and spark it up. Real or fake.

Will

**craig** · 03-30-2011, 12:01 PM

Those eyelashes have definitely been enhanced.

**b.read** · 03-30-2011, 12:02 PM

Very true, Will...Low maintenance, she ain't.

They do have a natural look to them, but mtr's analysis has got me thinking...maybe they are real and there's some kind of new fangled bra that I don't know about...I don't know.

All I know is the tits are real enough for me to touch 'em...and that's good enough for me.

**b.read** · 03-30-2011, 12:22 PM

Awww what the hell, here's another round, since we're waiting on better pics from bill.

Hopefully this won't be viewed as polluting the thread. If they are, I will remove these icky yucky pictures pronto.

Natually we're talking about the one with the big...uhhh...stone in her necklace.

**ggiese** · 03-30-2011, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by mrtr33

See, I disagree, even though I undoubtedly lack the experience you have. Look how she's leaning forward - then look at her necklace. I'd think, if she was leaning forward to show off the cleav, her necklace would be slightly off of her chest. But it's not - it's laying flat. Which leads me to believe that she's hunched over, from the obnoxious disproportional weight of her bust. Her arms are positioned behind her, in part for balance, but also in part to probably keep her equilibrium stable and not fall over. Also, behind the smile, and even in her eyes a little bit, it looks like she's grimacing, if just a little bit.

Whoa, whoa, whoa... Slow down there, sparky!

I'm very impressed with your obervations - and it's clearly obvious you've jumped face first into this analysis. I fully understand and appreciate the zealousness of the quest you've undertaken to get to the truth.

"Look how she's leaning forward - then look at her necklace. I'd think, if she was leaning forward to show off the cleav, her necklace would be slightly off of her chest. But it's not - it's laying flat."
I'm not certain that you can make that assumption based upon the picture. And (more importantly) where do you see a necklace in that photo? I surely don't see any necklace in that photo, and my eyes is perfectly fine!

"Her arms are positioned behind her, in part for balance, but also in part to probably keep her equilibrium stable and not fall over."
Again - a pretty cavalier assumption on your part. How could you possible surmise that "in part for balance, but also in part to probably keep her equilibrium and not fall over." Be careful when you're throwing out a "probably" in your argument.

No - I'm sorry... There is absolutely no evidence that the arms behind her back are in any way meant to bolster her balance or equilibrium. Clearly they're placed behind her back as a means of bolstering the view of the objects we're studying.

In other words - she's just trying to give you a better vantage point by which to assess whether them parts is real!

"Also, behind the smile, and even in her eyes a little bit, it looks like she's grimacing, if just a little bit."

"Grimace", you say?!

No - there's no grimace whatsover in that look. There's definitely a smile of confidence that you'll assess the puppies for exactly what they is!

I very much appreciate and understand your confusion, though. I was once where you're at. I've come to finally appreciate the years of dedicated study I endured to get to a point where I can properly assess the situation. I implore you to invest the same time and effort to get it right! Let's just say - the rewards are incredible.

Good luck with your quest, my friend!