Have you received a PM from SFG75 asking you to sign up on LTC?

**ggiese** · 05-27-2005, 10:47 AM

Scotty was inviting people to the Island??? And he didn't invite me??? WTF!!!

SFG75 · 05-27-2005, 11:00 AM

This is all kind of amusing since I spend more time here than over there. I had no idea that there is a law stating that you have to spend your time at one board and one board only.

The word "recruiting" is very dishonest as it implies that once a person signs up at a place, that they drop one site and spend all of their time at the new one. Can you name one person who has done this that I "recruited" Billy?

Happy hunting Bill, yet another straw that you'll collect due to your animosity and outright bitterness at not being able to run this board.

**CoventryCat86** · 05-27-2005, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by SFG75

This is all kind of amusing since I spend more time here than over there. I had no idea that there is a law stating that you have to spend your time at one board and one board only. The word "recruiting" is very dishonest as it implies that once a person signs up at a place, that they drop one site and spend all of their time at the new one. Can you name one person who has done this that I "recruited" Billy?

Happy hunting Bill, yet another straw that you'll collect due to your animosity and outright bitterness at not being able to run this board.

You are truly amazing Scotty, no one mad an issue about people being members at multiple sites. The issue at hand is that you came over here because you saw that the Island was dying a slow death (gee go figure since you losers made it a private site) and tried to recruit people from here to your poor excuse for a cigar site. The word "recruiting" is NOT dishonest at all, you are the one who is dishonest and a two-faced liar.

You did indeed attempt to recruit people to the site where you think you are some major player and once a couple of those guys signed up over there and realized how lame it was, they didn't stick around, did they?

"animosty and outright bitterness" WTF are you talking about?

That is truly laughable Scotty.

Now don't start crying just because I once again called you out on being the sleazeball that you are. It's one thing to talk about other sites which many of us do but the bottom line is that you're trying to recruit people from here to the Island which is pretty pathetic.

**Drake** · 05-27-2005, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

You are truly amazing Scotty, no one mad an issue about people being members at multiple sites. The issue at hand is that you came over here because you saw that the Island was dying a slow death (gee go figure since you losers made it a private site) and tried to recruit people from here to your poor excuse for a cigar site. The word "recruiting" is NOT dishonest at all, you are the one who is dishonest and a two-faced liar.

You did indeed attempt to recruit people to the site where you think you are some major player and once a couple of those guys signed up over there and realized how lame it was, they didn't stick around, did they?

"animosty and outright bitterness" WTF are you talking about?

That is truly laughable Scotty.

Now don't start crying just because I once again called you out on being the sleazeball that you are. It's one thing to talk about other sites which many of us do but the bottom line is that you're trying to recruit people from here to the Island which is pretty pathetic.

madE not mad

typo, i know. i just had to

i still post there. its definitely not a great site, but its not as awful as you two make it seem. probably because there's little substance. not enough to be bad or good. i don't really know what it once was, though. and i did recieve an invite from scotty.

SFG75 · 05-27-2005, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Drake

madE not mad

typo, i know. i just had to

i still post there. its definitely not a great site, but its not as awful as you two make it seem. probably because there's little substance. not enough to be bad or good. i don't really know what it once was, though. and i did recieve an invite from scotty.

It was thriving at one time. Bill and his friends flamed the site twice with hundreds of e-mails and Zac had to close it down to delete the avalanche of e-mails. We had a rules system where simple things like respecting others and not slamming people were not tolerated at all. Was that rule too tough for Bill??...............evidently it was.

Though I would imagine people here would be shocked that he had such a problem acting in a civil manner towards others. His split personality of Moheganson acted like a jerk and got banned. Anyways, he and his buds trashed the site and Zac got fed up and made it private. I was one of the earliest people suggesting to go public again and was very consistent about that. Yes, it is coming off the ground. Bill likes to pretend the site just went down on it's own, he takes no ownership of the fact that he and his buds caused that to happen. They are arrogant towards site owners, telling them how to run a site and why a site owner should cave in to them. Zac was one of a few that doesn't, and LTC paid the price. They also hate Cigar Weekly because CW doesn't tolerate their crap.

I'm not surprised to see site owners walk a tight rope with these guys, because site owners don't want the "store"damaged by a gang of ruffians.

**Drake** · 05-27-2005, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by SFG75

It was thriving at one time. Bill and his friends flamed the site twice with hundreds of e-mails and Zac had to close it down to delete the avalanche of e-mails. We had a rules system where simple things like respecting others and not slamming people were not tolerated at all. Was that rule too tough for Bill??...............evidently it was.

Though I would imagine people here would be shocked that he had such a problem acting in a civil manner towards others. His split personality of Moheganson acted like a jerk and got banned. Anyways, he and his buds trashed the site and Zac got fed up and made it private. I was one of the earliest people suggesting to go public again and was very consistent about that. Yes, it is coming off the ground. Bill likes to pretend the site just went down on it's own, he takes no ownership of the fact that he and his buds caused that to happen. They are arrogant towards site owners, telling them how to run a site and why a site owner should cave in to them. Zac was one of a few that doesn't, and LTC paid the price. They also hate Cigar Weekly because CW doesn't tolerate their crap.

I'm not surprised to see site owners walk a tight rope with these guys, because site owners don't want the "store"damaged by a gang of ruffians.

do you think they have damaged this site? i don't.

SFG75 · 05-27-2005, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Drake

do you think they have damaged this site? i don't.

Hex hasn't banned one of them. Big difference.

**CoventryCat86** · 05-27-2005, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by SFG75

It was thriving at one time. Bill and his friends flamed the site twice with hundreds of e-mails and Zac had to close it down to delete the avalanche of e-mails. We had a rules system where simple things like respecting others and not slamming people were not tolerated at all. Was that rule too tough for Bill??...............evidently it was.

Though I would imagine people here would be shocked that he had such a problem acting in a civil manner towards others. His split personality of Moheganson acted like a jerk and got banned. Anyways, he and his buds trashed the site and Zac got fed up and made it private. I was one of the earliest people suggesting to go public again and was very consistent about that. Yes, it is coming off the ground. Bill likes to pretend the site just went down on it's own, he takes no ownership of the fact that he and his buds caused that to happen. They are arrogant towards site owners, telling them how to run a site and why a site owner should cave in to them. Zac was one of a few that doesn't, and LTC paid the price. They also hate Cigar Weekly because CW doesn't tolerate their crap.

I'm not surprised to see site owners walk a tight rope with these guys, because site owners don't want the "store"damaged by a gang of ruffians.

Scotty, please don't lie, I know it's REALLY hard for you to not lie but at least TRY okay? I was never a member over there. When the site became public a few weeks ago, I signed up but never received my activation email so my account is not activated. "Hundreds of emails" huh? REALLY now!!! I believe it was YOU Scotty who sent PM's to people with your heavy handed bull$hit. Pm's initiated by YOU, not the other way around.

You talk about

Bill and his friends flamed the site twice with hundreds of e-mails

which is an outright lie and you know it. The site was a miserable failure because of YOU Scotty and your overzealous "moderating" and abusing people. LMAO YOU refuse to take "ownership" of the reason that it failed. You also have this big hang up on a world-wide "conspiracy" which is also not true. Hell, anyone with half a brain would draw the same conclusions about the Island that I did.

You, The sultan, Oblik, larrynj, Purobrat and a few others did NOT act in a "civil manner" towards others. In fact, the reason LTC was labeled "The Island of the Misfit Toys" is because most of you are the ones who cannot interact well with others on the other cigar boards because you are smug, arrogant, nasty and rude and you are showing your true colors here as well. Please keep doing it because once again you make my case for me.

Who "hates" CigarWeekly? I don't and never said I did. Once again you are lying because no one I know ever posted that they "hate" CigarWeekly. On the contrary, it's one of the premiere cigar boards on the net.

Again Scotty, you never cease to amaze me, you absolutely positively cannot face reality and continue to point the finger and blame everyone else but yourself.

It's very amusing.

In summary, Scotty is a delusional two-faced liar who cannot be trusted.

SFG75 · 05-27-2005, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

You talk about which is an outright lie and you know it. The site was a miserable failure because of YOU Scotty and your overzealous "moderating" and abusing people. LMAO YOU refuse to take "ownership" of the reason that it failed. You also have this big hang up on a world-wide "conspiracy" which is also not true. Hell, anyone with half a brain would draw the same conclusions about the Island that I did.

A pure crock CC, if that was the case, Zac would've removed my moderating privileges. You(as Moheganson) and your friends flamed the site twice, that is a fact. Anyone who has any questions can contact Zac at LTC and ascertain that fact.

You, The sultan, Oblik, larrynj, Purobrat and a few others did NOT act in a "civil manner" towards others.

Excuse me, the moderating team did it's job in keeping the rules of civility. It was your friend SLR and others who acted like emotional infants and who then got themselves banned. We had every right to act like we did, and we hardly uncivil to people. People were harassing PB(just like you guys did before he even made one post here)

In fact, the reason LTC was labeled "The Island of the Misfit Toys" is because most of you are the ones who cannot interact well with others on the other cigar boards because you are smug, arrogant, nasty and rude and you are showing your true colors here as well. Please keep doing it because once again you make my case for me.

It was named that by you and your Cigar Snob buds who got called out on things they had never been called out on before. Ggiese's cute little cut and paste job?, yeah, very grown up for such a mature man. Zac did the one of Leebo just so you guys would chill out. Funny thing?, every thread dealing with me, PB, and LTC was locked shortly thereafter. Tell him hi for me, he looks sporting in that LTC yellow jacket.

Who "hates" CigarWeekly? I don't and never said I did. Once again you are lying because no one I know ever posted that they "hate" CigarWeekly. On the contrary, it's one of the premiere cigar boards on the net.

www.cigarweakly.com A site made by Bill's friends since they can't run that place.

Again Scotty, you never cease to amaze me, you absolutely positively cannot face reality and continue to point the finger and blame everyone else but yourself.

No Bill, you're just pissed off that I haven't been driven off of this site simply because of your pompous word and outright arrogance towards me, if not others. Even before I got here, you were stirring up trouble, as the "Why are we all fighting" thread was started BEFORE I became a member here.
It's very amusing.

In summary, Scotty is a delusional two-faced liar who cannot be trusted.

I can't be trusted? Funny, I'm just about to go mail off my half of a trade with a second member of this board.

Until someone bitches about me, you have no point, not that you had one in the first place. Oh, and by the way-you're a histrionic, narcissistic, pompous, blinded-to-reality aficionado who can't get over hang-ups in his life.

**ggiese** · 05-27-2005, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by SFG75

It was thriving at one time. Bill and his friends flamed the site twice with hundreds of e-mails and Zac had to close it down to delete the avalanche of e-mails. We had a rules system where simple things like respecting others and not slamming people were not tolerated at all. Was that rule too tough for Bill??...............evidently it was.

Though I would imagine people here would be shocked that he had such a problem acting in a civil manner towards others. His split personality of Moheganson acted like a jerk and got banned. Anyways, he and his buds trashed the site and Zac got fed up and made it private. I was one of the earliest people suggesting to go public again and was very consistent about that. Yes, it is coming off the ground. Bill likes to pretend the site just went down on it's own, he takes no ownership of the fact that he and his buds caused that to happen. They are arrogant towards site owners, telling them how to run a site and why a site owner should cave in to them. Zac was one of a few that doesn't, and LTC paid the price. They also hate Cigar Weekly because CW doesn't tolerate their crap.

I'm not surprised to see site owners walk a tight rope with these guys, because site owners don't want the "store"damaged by a gang of ruffians.

Thriving, Scotty??? When was LTC ever thriving... It seemed to me it was thriving when shit was hitting the fan - when all the heavy handed modding started. When there was "secret" strikes against members. Yep, that's right folks - Scotty and his "team" of mods over there would meet in chat behind closed doors - assign "strikes" to members of LTC based upon their subjective opinions. When they liked the person who was flaming, they would not issue a strike - when they thought it had something to do with "those people" (meaning people associated with members of CP and other boards Scotty was Persona Non Grata at) they issued strikes like a home plate umpire.

And then when the board started crumbling because everyone was outing the heavy handed tactics, Zac lowered the Iron Curtain and made the site private... What a GREAT move... Those few individuals, the "Misfit Toys" - you know, the toys nobody wanted to have anything to do with - decided to create a Utopia amongst themselves. Great plan, there, Scotty... Worked like a charm... You guys gave each other back slaps and high fives to the point where you couldn't stand to do it anymore. You and your pals lurked on the other boards, looking for signs they were talking about you. And no one was. No one was watching the Island - no one was paying attention to the Island - the board just sank, and sank, and sank... People started realizing how truly lame the site was.

The best part of this story, which Scotty won't address or admit - LTC banned some great people. People like AlexGTP, who was over there to make the site better - much to the pain of other people on other boards. Alex stood up for himself, despite people asking him WTF, and then as a result of his associations (and his occasional disagreement with the other mods and the site admin, Zac), Alex was banned. Why was Alex banned, Scotty??? You know the reason... Because he DARED to say that the flaming needed to run its course - just like Hex allowed here. He told all of you how childish you were being.

Now comes the latest membership drive. You want to regain the days of old - when you were head cheese... You're doing a great job of attracting quality members over there. With your talk of the "Cat". Reviving interest in that board by using this board - bringing members from there to here, and from here to there. But it seems the reputation of the board is what it is. You say I am welcome over there with the "new" open membership plan - I highly doubt it. To be honest, I wouldn't waste my time... I only have so much time to spend on the boards, and I choose quality places to be...

I'm really getting to like this board. It surely is much different than the Island. But boy, I see this is just eating the crap out of you, Scotty - Hex allowing opinions to flow. All of us - LabMonkey, Roham, Drake, CC, Me, Scotty - allowed to say what we please. While I'm sure you, Scotty, would like this fight to polarize a bit more - is sure hasn't. And boy would you be in HEAVEN if they banned CC and/or myself... Why, Scotty - would you "win"???

I don't think Scotty realizes it, but he is losing. With an ego the size of a Mack truck, I doubt he catches it. While he has made friends of some of the members of this board, he's too egotistical to realize that while he thinks he's winning over droves of friends, others are looking at how truly pathetic and sad he is.

I know you're going to accuse me of siding with Bill on this, but the facts speak for themselves. Scotty - your personality is shining through all of your posts - exactly as CC said it would. Clearly you are baiting CC into arguments for the sake of trashing him on so-called neutral ground. And equally clear is your plan of attack against CC - as you have laid out in your strategy PM's to other members.

A while back I told you I was on the fence with you. I saw what was going on at CP and said, "WTF!" I saw you attack people over there that you had no business attacking - and then apologize - and then attack again. Make a post that others back up what you say - that you were flawless and it wouldn't stick. How you had the backing of other members of the board in your opinions. I stood on the sidelines watching, trying to figure out your motivation. Now I CLEARLY see what your motivation is... Feeding your ego - making you the center of attention - "master passer", "flawless", and other such equally disgusting terms.

You again proved this with your latest series of attacks. When there is a lull in the arguing here, you just had to start up with CC. This is a classic example of why you are persona non grata at CP.

Your reputation is out there. People know what you're about. While new people may warm up to you initially, eventually your personality shines through and you will be right back to where you are. You can't help it Scotty, you are who you are.

Maybe you should stay in a large group setting, like CigarWeekly or Herfer's Paradise, where the focus can't always be on you. With that ego of yours, when you get in a larger group setting like that there are more people to pummel you when you make an ass out of yourself. That'll keep you in check.

So - don't blame all your woes on Bill, or Leebo, or Judge Judy, or JoeM, or Mo, or anyone else - just keep it up Scotty - you are your own worst enemy...

SFG75 · 05-27-2005, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by ggiese

Thriving, Scotty??? When was LTC ever thriving... It seemed to me it was thriving when shit was hitting the fan - when all the heavy handed modding started. When there was "secret" strikes against members. Yep, that's right folks - Scotty and his "team" of mods over there would meet in chat behind closed doors - assign "strikes" to members of LTC based upon their subjective opinions. When they liked the person who was flaming, they would not issue a strike - when they thought it had something to do with "those people" (meaning people associated with members of CP and other boards Scotty was Persona Non Grata at) they issued strikes like a home plate umpire.

And then when the board started crumbling because everyone was outing the heavy handed tactics, Zac lowered the Iron Curtain and made the site private... What a GREAT move... Those few individuals, the "Misfit Toys" - you know, the toys nobody wanted to have anything to do with - decided to create a Utopia amongst themselves. Great plan, there, Scotty... Worked like a charm... You guys gave each other back slaps and high fives to the point where you couldn't stand to do it anymore. You and your pals lurked on the other boards, looking for signs they were talking about you. And no one was. No one was watching the Island - no one was paying attention to the Island - the board just sank, and sank, and sank... People started realizing how truly lame the site was.

The best part of this story, which Scotty won't address or admit - LTC banned some great people. People like AlexGTP, who was over there to make the site better - much to the pain of other people on other boards. Alex stood up for himself, despite people asking him WTF, and then as a result of his associations (and his occasional disagreement with the other mods and the site admin, Zac), Alex was banned. Why was Alex banned, Scotty??? You know the reason... Because he DARED to say that the flaming needed to run its course - just like Hex allowed here. He told all of you how childish you were being.

Now comes the latest membership drive. You want to regain the days of old - when you were head cheese... You're doing a great job of attracting quality members over there. With your talk of the "Cat". Reviving interest in that board by using this board - bringing members from there to here, and from here to there. But it seems the reputation of the board is what it is. You say I am welcome over there with the "new" open membership plan - I highly doubt it. To be honest, I wouldn't waste my time... I only have so much time to spend on the boards, and I choose quality places to be...

I'm really getting to like this board. It surely is much different than the Island. But boy, I see this is just eating the crap out of you, Scotty - Hex allowing opinions to flow. All of us - LabMonkey, Roham, Drake, CC, Me, Scotty - allowed to say what we please. While I'm sure you, Scotty, would like this fight to polarize a bit more - is sure hasn't. And boy would you be in HEAVEN if they banned CC and/or myself... Why, Scotty - would you "win"???

I don't think Scotty realizes it, but he is losing. With an ego the size of a Mack truck, I doubt he catches it. While he has made friends of some of the members of this board, he's too egotistical to realize that while he thinks he's winning over droves of friends, others are looking at how truly pathetic and sad he is.

I know you're going to accuse me of siding with Bill on this, but the facts speak for themselves. Scotty - your personality is shining through all of your posts - exactly as CC said it would. Clearly you are baiting CC into arguments for the sake of trashing him on so-called neutral ground. And equally clear is your plan of attack against CC - as you have laid out in your strategy PM's to other members.

A while back I told you I was on the fence with you. I saw what was going on at CP and said, "WTF!" I saw you attack people over there that you had no business attacking - and then apologize - and then attack again. Make a post that others back up what you say - that you were flawless and it wouldn't stick. How you had the backing of other members of the board in your opinions. I stood on the sidelines watching, trying to figure out your motivation. Now I CLEARLY see what your motivation is... Feeding your ego - making you the center of attention - "master passer", "flawless", and other such equally disgusting terms.

You again proved this with your latest series of attacks. When there is a lull in the arguing here, you just had to start up with CC. This is a classic example of why you are persona non grata at CP.

Your reputation is out there. People know what you're about. While new people may warm up to you initially, eventually your personality shines through and you will be right back to where you are. You can't help it Scotty, you are who you are.

Maybe you should stay in a large group setting, like CigarWeekly or Herfer's Paradise, where the focus can't always be on you. With that ego of yours, when you get in a larger group setting like that there are more people to pummel you when you make an ass out of yourself. That'll keep you in check.

So - don't blame all your woes on Bill, or Leebo, or Judge Judy, or JoeM, or Mo, or anyone else - just keep it up Scotty - you are your own worst enemy...

Yeah, it was simply too much to ask people to be civil to one another and to not flame one another.

Guilty as charged.

SFG75 · 05-27-2005, 02:07 PM

7-nay, 1-aye; better get your friends here to equal things out!. Where's the cavalry!!.

**Bkcloud114** · 05-27-2005, 02:12 PM

ROFLMAO......

PM me with an invite ????? My ass is still banned from there !!!!!!!

Then I sent an e-mail when they went "private" and was told NO !!!!!

Guilt by association

I don't blame it on SFG..... but this Zac person is an asshole.........

**CoventryCat86** · 05-27-2005, 11:38 AM

Scotty just sent me a PM calling my poll "pointless" and asking me if I really thought people were "defecting"

LMFAO, first off Scotty this is a free country and you are entitled to your opinion but I think my poll is just the opposite from "pointless" In fact, it makes a GREAT "point" which is that you cannot be trusted. You have a very different personality when you post yet you are an arrogant, smug obnoxious POS when you PM people.

It's also not a matter of anyone "defecting" people can make their own decisions about which sites are good and which ones are not. My "point" is that they don't need people like you whispering to them via PMs how you love them and that LTC needs more good guys like them. You are clearly guilty of trying to lure people to the pathetic site aka The Island of the Misfit Toys because you're trying desperately to give that worthless site some credibility which is impossible.

Please don't PM me ever again, because you cannot be trusted.

**CoventryCat86** · 05-27-2005, 11:39 AM

madE not mad typo, i know. i just had to

BUSTED

LMAO, nice one Drake

**Drake** · 05-27-2005, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

BUSTED

LMAO, nice one Drake

man, since you started posting here, i'm more cautious of my spelling. in work and everthing. not a bad thing of course. but, its become a good habbit. thanks, damnit!

SFG75 · 05-27-2005, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

Scotty just sent me a PM calling my poll "pointless" and asking me if I really thought people were "defecting"

LMFAO, first off Scotty this is a free country and you are entitled to your opinion but I think my poll is just the opposite from "pointless" In fact, it makes a GREAT "point" which is that you cannot be trusted. You have a very different personality when you post yet you are an arrogant, smug obnoxious POS when you PM people.

It's also not a matter of anyone "defecting" people can make their own decisions about which sites are good and which ones are not. My "point" is that they don't need people like you whispering to them via PMs how you love them and that LTC needs more good guys like them. You are clearly guilty of trying to lure people to the pathetic site aka The Island of the Misfit Toys because you're trying desperately to give that worthless site some credibility which is impossible.
Please don't PM me ever again, because you cannot be trusted.

Recommending sites to people is not a crime Billy, some day you'll figure out that there isn't a federal anti-site recommending law.