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    Quote Originally Posted by SFG75
    His board, his right to run it as he deems necessary. You guys should learn about that as being guests on other people's boards.

    Leave us alone?-you havent won a poll here yet.

    Yep ole Zac can run it anyway he wants. I'll be you and the rest of the Island guy still can't figure out why it's still a miserable failure.

    What do you mean by "won a poll here yet"? Do you always look at life as one big fight? You liberals are famous for that

    I still wish you'd leave us (and yes US which means nothing more that all the members of this site) alone and go back to the Island. You're trying to read something into my post which is only the product of your warped vidid imagination which as usual, is not based in reality.

    As I mentioned in my previous post, CigarPass is a much nicer place since you've been banned there. This would be a much more enjoyable site it you'd just leave us alone. Sorry Scotty but the truth hurts....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFG75
    Hex hasn't banned one of them. Big difference.
    i know. and this place is awesome. do you think banning them would improve this place? i don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
    Yep ole Zac can run it anyway he wants. I'll be you and the rest of the Island guy still can't figure out why it's still a miserable failure.

    What do you mean by "won a poll here yet"? Do you always look at life as one big fight? You liberals are famous for that

    I still wish you'd leave us (and yes US which means nothing more that all the members of this site) alone and go back to the Island. You're trying to read something into my post which is only the product of your warped vidid imagination which as usual, is not based in reality.

    As I mentioned in my previous post, CigarPass is a much nicer place since you've been banned there. This would be a much more enjoyable site it you'd just leave us alone. Sorry Soctty but the truth hurts....
    I'll beT

    you're just missing keys left and right, today, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake
    I'll beT

    you're just missing keys left and right, today, huh?
    Oh yeah, I'm definitely off my game today, that's for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
    It seems to me that Zac DID indeed remove your "moderatig" priviliges.
    Another mistaken assumption on your part. Anyone can ask Zac at: Zac@letstalkcigars.com


    Also stop lying and making up stories about me and "my friends" flaming the Island.
    Uhhh, they did.

    It was Zac who posted spam over on CigarPass and quite a few members including you at the time didn't like it and signed up over there and made their feelings known.

    Yeah, and he apologized for it and everyone(including you) said things were o.k. after that point. Three posts mistakenly made doesn't make him the lord of the underworld.


    "Emotional infant" that's a good one Scotty. Then can you please tell us why you were banned from CigarPass? You are the "emotional infant" here and so is Zac who is too stupid and closed minded to be able to run a site effectively.
    Sure!!, because I jokingly stated on a chatboard on LTC that I would name my pass the "FUCP" pass. You deleted the second line which stated it was a joke. You did that to purposely make me look bad and it worked marvelously as I was having computer trouble at the time. That was very dishonest of you Bill, but I've moved on. Anyone can ask PB how that discussion went. He's over on LTC for interested parties.

    As far as the cigarWEAKLY site you provided a link to, I've never seen that until you posted it so once again you really should stop your lying (claiming that it's "a site made by Bill's friends" because I have no idea whose site that is nor do I know anyone who does).
    Still further evidence that you guys hate what you can't run vicariously through others.

    I'm not "pissed" about anything here Scotty, you are the one who's obviously "pissed" because I choose to post the truth about you which isn't pretty.
    Yes Bill, you've never chased me from thread to thread here. You've never had a poll started about you harassing me, and yes, I'm the one who acts in such a manner 100% of the time.

    I must admit though that CigarPass is a much better place since you've been banned there. Any cigar site is a pleasant place without you which is why I posted that I wish you'd just leave us alone and just go back to the Island.
    1800 members and only half are active. It's funny, you get a newbie wave about every six months and then people mysteriously disappear. Why?, some get bored, but others head to HP or CW(both of which have more online members at any time of the day) because they don't want to suck up to eight guys who insult others at will. Post a review about ACIDS?,like flavored cigars? Don't head ther unless you want to be ridiculed.

    Now, now, Scotty Boy, no need for name calling. You shouldn't do that, it only makes you look worse
    Just returning the treatment in kind Bill.

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    5 nays and 1 aye; looks like your theory isn't panning out Billy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFG75
    It was thriving at one time. Bill and his friends flamed the site twice with hundreds of e-mails and Zac had to close it down to delete the avalanche of e-mails. We had a rules system where simple things like respecting others and not slamming people were not tolerated at all. Was that rule too tough for Bill??...............evidently it was. Though I would imagine people here would be shocked that he had such a problem acting in a civil manner towards others. His split personality of Moheganson acted like a jerk and got banned. Anyways, he and his buds trashed the site and Zac got fed up and made it private. I was one of the earliest people suggesting to go public again and was very consistent about that. Yes, it is coming off the ground. Bill likes to pretend the site just went down on it's own, he takes no ownership of the fact that he and his buds caused that to happen. They are arrogant towards site owners, telling them how to run a site and why a site owner should cave in to them. Zac was one of a few that doesn't, and LTC paid the price. They also hate Cigar Weekly because CW doesn't tolerate their crap. I'm not surprised to see site owners walk a tight rope with these guys, because site owners don't want the "store"damaged by a gang of ruffians.

    Thriving, Scotty??? When was LTC ever thriving... It seemed to me it was thriving when shit was hitting the fan - when all the heavy handed modding started. When there was "secret" strikes against members. Yep, that's right folks - Scotty and his "team" of mods over there would meet in chat behind closed doors - assign "strikes" to members of LTC based upon their subjective opinions. When they liked the person who was flaming, they would not issue a strike - when they thought it had something to do with "those people" (meaning people associated with members of CP and other boards Scotty was Persona Non Grata at) they issued strikes like a home plate umpire.

    And then when the board started crumbling because everyone was outing the heavy handed tactics, Zac lowered the Iron Curtain and made the site private... What a GREAT move... Those few individuals, the "Misfit Toys" - you know, the toys nobody wanted to have anything to do with - decided to create a Utopia amongst themselves. Great plan, there, Scotty... Worked like a charm... You guys gave each other back slaps and high fives to the point where you couldn't stand to do it anymore. You and your pals lurked on the other boards, looking for signs they were talking about you. And no one was. No one was watching the Island - no one was paying attention to the Island - the board just sank, and sank, and sank... People started realizing how truly lame the site was.

    The best part of this story, which Scotty won't address or admit - LTC banned some great people. People like AlexGTP, who was over there to make the site better - much to the pain of other people on other boards. Alex stood up for himself, despite people asking him WTF, and then as a result of his associations (and his occasional disagreement with the other mods and the site admin, Zac), Alex was banned. Why was Alex banned, Scotty??? You know the reason... Because he DARED to say that the flaming needed to run its course - just like Hex allowed here. He told all of you how childish you were being.

    Now comes the latest membership drive. You want to regain the days of old - when you were head cheese... You're doing a great job of attracting quality members over there. With your talk of the "Cat". Reviving interest in that board by using this board - bringing members from there to here, and from here to there. But it seems the reputation of the board is what it is. You say I am welcome over there with the "new" open membership plan - I highly doubt it. To be honest, I wouldn't waste my time... I only have so much time to spend on the boards, and I choose quality places to be...

    I'm really getting to like this board. It surely is much different than the Island. But boy, I see this is just eating the crap out of you, Scotty - Hex allowing opinions to flow. All of us - LabMonkey, Roham, Drake, CC, Me, Scotty - allowed to say what we please. While I'm sure you, Scotty, would like this fight to polarize a bit more - is sure hasn't. And boy would you be in HEAVEN if they banned CC and/or myself... Why, Scotty - would you "win"???

    I don't think Scotty realizes it, but he is losing. With an ego the size of a Mack truck, I doubt he catches it. While he has made friends of some of the members of this board, he's too egotistical to realize that while he thinks he's winning over droves of friends, others are looking at how truly pathetic and sad he is.

    I know you're going to accuse me of siding with Bill on this, but the facts speak for themselves. Scotty - your personality is shining through all of your posts - exactly as CC said it would. Clearly you are baiting CC into arguments for the sake of trashing him on so-called neutral ground. And equally clear is your plan of attack against CC - as you have laid out in your strategy PM's to other members.

    A while back I told you I was on the fence with you. I saw what was going on at CP and said, "WTF!" I saw you attack people over there that you had no business attacking - and then apologize - and then attack again. Make a post that others back up what you say - that you were flawless and it wouldn't stick. How you had the backing of other members of the board in your opinions. I stood on the sidelines watching, trying to figure out your motivation. Now I CLEARLY see what your motivation is... Feeding your ego - making you the center of attention - "master passer", "flawless", and other such equally disgusting terms.

    You again proved this with your latest series of attacks. When there is a lull in the arguing here, you just had to start up with CC. This is a classic example of why you are persona non grata at CP.

    Your reputation is out there. People know what you're about. While new people may warm up to you initially, eventually your personality shines through and you will be right back to where you are. You can't help it Scotty, you are who you are.

    Maybe you should stay in a large group setting, like CigarWeekly or Herfer's Paradise, where the focus can't always be on you. With that ego of yours, when you get in a larger group setting like that there are more people to pummel you when you make an ass out of yourself. That'll keep you in check.

    So - don't blame all your woes on Bill, or Leebo, or Judge Judy, or JoeM, or Mo, or anyone else - just keep it up Scotty - you are your own worst enemy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese
    Thriving, Scotty??? When was LTC ever thriving... It seemed to me it was thriving when shit was hitting the fan - when all the heavy handed modding started. When there was "secret" strikes against members. Yep, that's right folks - Scotty and his "team" of mods over there would meet in chat behind closed doors - assign "strikes" to members of LTC based upon their subjective opinions. When they liked the person who was flaming, they would not issue a strike - when they thought it had something to do with "those people" (meaning people associated with members of CP and other boards Scotty was Persona Non Grata at) they issued strikes like a home plate umpire.

    And then when the board started crumbling because everyone was outing the heavy handed tactics, Zac lowered the Iron Curtain and made the site private... What a GREAT move... Those few individuals, the "Misfit Toys" - you know, the toys nobody wanted to have anything to do with - decided to create a Utopia amongst themselves. Great plan, there, Scotty... Worked like a charm... You guys gave each other back slaps and high fives to the point where you couldn't stand to do it anymore. You and your pals lurked on the other boards, looking for signs they were talking about you. And no one was. No one was watching the Island - no one was paying attention to the Island - the board just sank, and sank, and sank... People started realizing how truly lame the site was.

    The best part of this story, which Scotty won't address or admit - LTC banned some great people. People like AlexGTP, who was over there to make the site better - much to the pain of other people on other boards. Alex stood up for himself, despite people asking him WTF, and then as a result of his associations (and his occasional disagreement with the other mods and the site admin, Zac), Alex was banned. Why was Alex banned, Scotty??? You know the reason... Because he DARED to say that the flaming needed to run its course - just like Hex allowed here. He told all of you how childish you were being.

    Now comes the latest membership drive. You want to regain the days of old - when you were head cheese... You're doing a great job of attracting quality members over there. With your talk of the "Cat". Reviving interest in that board by using this board - bringing members from there to here, and from here to there. But it seems the reputation of the board is what it is. You say I am welcome over there with the "new" open membership plan - I highly doubt it. To be honest, I wouldn't waste my time... I only have so much time to spend on the boards, and I choose quality places to be...

    I'm really getting to like this board. It surely is much different than the Island. But boy, I see this is just eating the crap out of you, Scotty - Hex allowing opinions to flow. All of us - LabMonkey, Roham, Drake, CC, Me, Scotty - allowed to say what we please. While I'm sure you, Scotty, would like this fight to polarize a bit more - is sure hasn't. And boy would you be in HEAVEN if they banned CC and/or myself... Why, Scotty - would you "win"???

    I don't think Scotty realizes it, but he is losing. With an ego the size of a Mack truck, I doubt he catches it. While he has made friends of some of the members of this board, he's too egotistical to realize that while he thinks he's winning over droves of friends, others are looking at how truly pathetic and sad he is.

    I know you're going to accuse me of siding with Bill on this, but the facts speak for themselves. Scotty - your personality is shining through all of your posts - exactly as CC said it would. Clearly you are baiting CC into arguments for the sake of trashing him on so-called neutral ground. And equally clear is your plan of attack against CC - as you have laid out in your strategy PM's to other members.

    A while back I told you I was on the fence with you. I saw what was going on at CP and said, "WTF!" I saw you attack people over there that you had no business attacking - and then apologize - and then attack again. Make a post that others back up what you say - that you were flawless and it wouldn't stick. How you had the backing of other members of the board in your opinions. I stood on the sidelines watching, trying to figure out your motivation. Now I CLEARLY see what your motivation is... Feeding your ego - making you the center of attention - "master passer", "flawless", and other such equally disgusting terms.

    You again proved this with your latest series of attacks. When there is a lull in the arguing here, you just had to start up with CC. This is a classic example of why you are persona non grata at CP.

    Your reputation is out there. People know what you're about. While new people may warm up to you initially, eventually your personality shines through and you will be right back to where you are. You can't help it Scotty, you are who you are.

    Maybe you should stay in a large group setting, like CigarWeekly or Herfer's Paradise, where the focus can't always be on you. With that ego of yours, when you get in a larger group setting like that there are more people to pummel you when you make an ass out of yourself. That'll keep you in check.

    So - don't blame all your woes on Bill, or Leebo, or Judge Judy, or JoeM, or Mo, or anyone else - just keep it up Scotty - you are your own worst enemy...


    Yeah, it was simply too much to ask people to be civil to one another and to not flame one another. Guilty as charged.

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    I said:
    Also stop lying and making up stories about me and "my friends" flaming the Island.
    And he responds with:
    Uhhh, they did.
    Wow, Scotty Boy sure did get me good huh? I suppose I should hang my head in shame because friends of mine "flamed" the Island. I suppose technically, he's right.

    You see, Scotty wants you all to believe that I lead some grand conspiracy and I have a large following of people who cannot think for themselves and just do as I say. The reality here Scotty is that yes indeed friends of mine signed up on LetsTalkCigars because they were miffed at Zac spamming CigarPass as were you when Zac pulled that crap. When confronted with it he lied and denied that he was "LetsTalk" on CigarPass. Rod confirmed to us that Zac was indeed lying and that made people even more upset or did you forget that part? Zac kept his lie going for at almost two months before he posted his apology post.

    And yes, Zac did indeed remove your moderating priviliges. I will not email that little $hit in order for him to confirm your lie because he won't respond to me and if he did, he'd just lie because as I've already laid out for all to see, Zac is a proven liar and cannot be trusted just like you Scotty.

    Oh and I see you're lying once again about the details of your "FUCP" pass Scotty. Your constant lying is laughable. You were banned from CigarPass and you were acting like the emotional infant that you are and started shooting your mouth off in the chat room. You realy should watch what you say and learn to control your temper because as you can see it got you in a world of trouble.

    Scotty, your take on CigarPass is also laughable. You seem to be crying sour grapes because it is a highly successful site and your Island never has more than four or five semi-active members

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFG75
    Sure!!, because I jokingly stated on a chatboard on LTC that I would name my pass the "FUCP" pass. You deleted the second line which stated it was a joke. You did that to purposely make me look bad and it worked marvelously as I was having computer trouble at the time. That was very dishonest of you Bill, but I've moved on. Anyone can ask PB how that discussion went. He's over on LTC for interested parties.



    1800 members and only half are active. It's funny, you get a newbie wave about every six months and then people mysteriously disappear. Why?, some get bored, but others head to HP or CW(both of which have more online members at any time of the day) because they don't want to suck up to eight guys who insult others at will. Post a review about ACIDS?,like flavored cigars? Don't head ther unless you want to be ridiculed.
    A "joke" pass, eh, Scotty... Funny, Rod didn't think it was a joke and when he asked you about it, you started your BS with him. Why is it you are banned, Scotty... Because you had computer problems??? BULLSHIT, Scotty - you pissed off Rod with your egostical attitude - you didn't know how to act in a community and you were banned as a result. Much like you are acting here, only I think maybe you may have learned a thing or two about keeping your tongue under similar circumstances. I don't think you'll say to Hex what you said to Rod...

    And here you are - trash talking CP again... You're proving Bill's point again, Scotty...

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    [QUOTE=CoventryCat86]I said:

    You see, Scotty wants you all to believe that I lead some grand conspiracy and I have a large following of people who cannot think for themselves and just do as I say. The reality here Scotty is that yes indeed friends of mine signed up on LetsTalkCigars because they were miffed at Zac spamming CigarPass as were you when Zac pulled that crap. When confronted with it he lied and denied that he was "LetsTalk" on CigarPass. Rod confirmed to us that Zac was indeed lying and that made people even more upset or did you forget that part? Zac kept his lie going for at almost two months before he posted his apology post.
    Nevertheless, the apology was accepted. You even posted something along the lines of: "See, that wasn't so bad now was it?" and then you were very conciliatory towards him. I joined after everything had died down. PB was a embmer there long before I was, hence why I have 300 posts there and he has 600.

    And yes, Zac did indeed remove your moderating priviliges.
    Pure lie on your part, I challenge Alexgtp, Oblik, or anyone to post a message from Zac stating that such a thing occured. Once again, Zac can be reached and I posted his e-mail. If anyone finds out that he removed me, I'll apologize.


    Oh and I see you're lying once again about the details of your "FUCP" pass Scotty. Your constant lying is laughable. You were banned from CigarPass and you were acting like the emotional infant that you are and started shooting your mouth off in the chat room. You realy should watch what you say and learn to control your temper because as you can see it got you in a world of trouble.
    So you deny cutting off the next line which stated it was a joke? If it wasn't, then why did I ultimately name it the: "Spring Forward LTC Pass"?? Hmmmmmmmmm?

    Scotty, your take on CigarPass is also laughable. You seem to be crying sour grapes because it is a highly successful site and your Island never has more than four or five semi-active members
    Hey, if folks enjoy it, good for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFG75
    Yeah, it was simply too much to ask people to be civil to one another and to not flame one another. Guilty as charged.
    Nope - it was a matter of not allowing anyone to discuss anything that was contrary to the mods views. God forbid if anyone disagreed - it was automatic banishment from the Island

    Remember your sigtag, Scotty...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese
    A "joke" pass, eh, Scotty... Funny, Rod didn't think it was a joke and when he asked you about it, you started your BS with him. Why is it you are banned, Scotty... Because you had computer problems??? BULLSHIT, Scotty - you pissed off Rod with your egostical attitude - you didn't know how to act in a community and you were banned as a result. Much like you are acting here, only I think maybe you may have learned a thing or two about keeping your tongue under similar circumstances. I don't think you'll say to Hex what you said to Rod...

    And here you are - trash talking CP again... You're proving Bill's point again, Scotty...

    You are mistaken George. I was in a pass at the time and Browndevil had to post my puts and takes for me..remember?. Go look yourself since you have nothing better to do. Of course Rod only got the info CC provided, which was incomplete....go figure. And I'll say what I want to say-thank you.

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    7-nay, 1-aye; better get your friends here to equal things out!. Where's the cavalry!!.

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    Yeah, it was simply too much to ask people to be civil to one another and to not flame one another. Guilty as charged.
    What's laughable is that you think those rules apply to everyone but you Scotty. You were NOT civil to people over on the Island. In fact, you were downright rude, arrogant, mean and nasty and you abused your "moderator" privileges so badly that you had a large part to do with that site’s ultimate demise.

    I do remember that larrynj was regularly abusing people yet you and Zac never did anything about it. Larrynj is a proven trouble maker on HP and he’s universally disliked just like you and PuroBrat. Yet people like all three of you thrive on the Island, go figure…….

    And once AGAIN, you refuse to admit you were wrong, don’t you? You just dig your heels in by whining and arguing like a spoiled six year old that you’re right, no matter what.

    Absolutely amazing....

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    ROFLMAO......

    PM me with an invite ????? My ass is still banned from there !!!!!!!

    Then I sent an e-mail when they went "private" and was told NO !!!!!

    Guilt by association

    I don't blame it on SFG..... but this Zac person is an asshole.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFG75
    Yeah, it was simply too much to ask people to be civil to one another and to not flame one another. Guilty as charged.

    You still haven't addressed a question I've laid out to you over and over... Why was AlexGTP banned? Was he "flaming" other members - were his posts inflammatory towards the board. It's a damn shame Zac lost the boards hard drive and hence all the previous posts during that period of time, because you certainly wouldn't have anything to back up your claim that "it was simply too much to ask people to be civil to one another and to not flame one another"
    Last edited by ggiese; 05-27-2005 at 02:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
    What's laughable is that you think those rules apply to everyone but you Scotty. You were NOT civil to people over on the Island. In fact, you were downright rude, arrogant, mean and nasty and you abused your "moderator" privileges so badly that you had a large part to do with that site’s ultimate demise.
    Abusive?..arrogant?.......that's a total crock. People PM'd Zac and he never found a thing to merit such a conclusion. Your poor friends....actually having to behave for once.....what a crime.


    I do remember that larrynj was regularly abusing people yet you and Zac never did anything about it. Larrynj is a proven trouble maker on HP and he’s universally disliked just like you and PuroBrat. Yet people like all three of you thrive on the Island, go figure…….
    Again, your memory doesn't serve you well. I gave Larry a strike and even he chilled out in order to get it removed after a six month time period.

    And once AGAIN, you refuse to admit you were wrong, don’t you? You just dig your heels in by whining and arguing like a spoiled six year old that you’re right, no matter what.
    Bill, your opininon of how I moderated is completely irrelevant. There is one person and one person only whose opinion matters-and that is Zac's. It's his website, it's his rules, and how it's run is completely up to him. No other moderator disputed that your friends acted like emotional infants. NOT ONE. They may have disagreed with how to handle a given situation, but no one said that they weren't asking for trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFG75
    You are mistaken George. I was in a pass at the time and Browndevil had to post my puts and takes for me..remember?. Go look yourself since you have nothing better to do. Of course Rod only got the info CC provided, which was incomplete....go figure. And I'll say what I want to say-thank you.
    And I suppose your computer was down when you were in the chat room with Rod, discussing the FUCP pass... The keys were sticking and it made it appear you were trash talking Rod... Ah, I got it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese
    You still haven't address a question I've laid out to you over and over... Why was AlexGTP banned? Was he "flaming" other members - were his posts inflammatory towards the board. It's a damn shame Zac lost the boards hard drive and hence all the previous posts during that period of time, because you certainly wouldn't have anything to back up your claim that "it was simply too much to ask people to be civil to one another and to not flame one another"
    Got me there, unless he was sharing stuff over at CP, I don't know why he would've been.

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