well, it looks like myself and some other folks are going to meet up at Shelley's this comeing Saturday, Dec. 8th. at about noon. I'm still trying to nail down the time but as of now, no one has objected to noon. Come one, come all. I'll let you know if the time changes. Reply back to this thread or pm me so we can coordinate, because cell phones don't work in Shelleys and saying "I'll be the guy with a cigar" only buys so much at a cigar bar.