Medical Marijuana

[QuietC]

i buy pot that is grown in water by someone in my city..

haha

not to get off topic, but people think they've done a better job on the border control, thats a load of crap

BOSTON -- The case of a man arrested in Massachusetts in connection with a pair of brutal killings in New Brunswick is raising questions about security along Maine's border with Canada.

In April, Gregory Despres hitchhiked to the border crossing at Calais carrying a homemade sword, a hatchet, a knife, brass knuckles and a chain saw stained by what appeared to be blood. Customs officials confiscated the weapons and fingerprinted Despres, but allowed him to enter the United States. The murders weren't discovered until the following day.

Despres was arrested later that month in Massachusetts and is now awaiting extradition.

Bill Anthony of U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Despres, a native of Canada, couldn't be detained at Calais because he's a naturalized U.S. citizen and wasn't wanted on any criminal charges

alright, if a guy like this can get through our borders, theres no way they're even close to stopping any kind of drugs from ciming into our country

[cigarsarge]

The problem with pot is the violence that surrounds it. At levels higher than the casual smoker or the $10-$20 a bag seller that sells to his buds, violence surrounds it. How many people have been assaulted or killed just to get you that blunt you just rolled?

I have been on many drug raids. In almost every one that involves sale of meth, crack, oxycotin, ect. we generally find pot for sale also. That is one hell of a dangerous atmosphere to go to buy a little pot.

On the other hand as a Law Enforcement Officer I encounter many people under various drugs. Alchohol, meth, cocaine users are generally more dangerous. I have had very few violent events with pot smokers.

I generally am not on the lookout for Johnny Toker smoking a blunt at his house. I have much better things to do than hook someone up for that. If you bring it on the street it becomes my business.

I am not here to judge my friends on this board. You gotta do what you gotta do. Just don't be bluntin up those Opus and PAMs.

[hex1848]

The problem with pot is the violence that surrounds it. At levels higher than the casual smoker or the $10-$20 a bag seller that sells to his buds, violence surrounds it. How many people have been assaulted or killed just to get you that blunt you just rolled?

The violence that surrounds the black market could be easily avoided by decriminalizing and commercializing the sale of marijuana. The money saved by emptying thousands of jail beds and the money gained by taxation would be astronomical.

[Drake]

The problem with pot is the violence that surrounds it. At levels higher than the casual smoker or the $10-$20 a bag seller that sells to his buds, violence surrounds it. How many people have been assaulted or killed just to get you that blunt you just rolled?

I have been on many drug raids. In almost every one that involves sale of meth, crack, oxycotin, ect. we generally find pot for sale also. That is one hell of a dangerous atmosphere to go to buy a little pot.

On the other hand as a Law Enforcement Officer I encounter many people under various drugs. Alchohol, meth, cocaine users are generally more dangerous. I have had very few violent events with pot smokers.

I generally am not on the lookout for Johnny Toker smoking a blunt at his house. I have much better things to do than hook someone up for that. If you bring it on the street it becomes my business.

I am not here to judge my friends on this board. You gotta do what you gotta do. Just don't be bluntin up those Opus and PAMs.

yeah, that's what a couple of my cop friends say. that no one gets busted for just smoking pot at their home. which i have never heard of happening.

[Drake]

The violence that surrounds the black market could be easily avoided by decriminalizing and commercializing the sale of marijuana. The money saved by emptying thousands of jail beds and the money gained by taxation would be astronomical.

well, the violence will be there no matter what. if drugs were gone, the greedy, easy money seeking, drug dealer types will always be there. and will kill someone for something of value. marijuana doesn't cause that.

[CoventryCat86]

What happened to the original topic of MEDICAL MARIJUANA?

[Drake]

What happened to the original topic of MEDICAL MARIJUANA?

oops. sorry. i think that was my fault.

[CoventryCat86]

oops. sorry. i think that was my fault.

LMAO!! Hardly!!!! I was just bustin' all yer balz a little. Believe me, this is not the first time a thread ever got sort of off topic and certainlly won't be the last, and you know me, I've NEVER gotten a thread "off topic" here

As a matter of fact, I was fully expecting someone to say:

"Hey pot, this is the kettle, you're BLACK"

[cigarsarge]

All this talk has given me a headache. Anybody got a joint?

[Roham]

i don't buy pot that's grown in dirt that came from mexico. i buy pot that is grown in water by someone in my city. and perhaps it is not all about the money. but regardless what the reasoning is, it is senseless. if they would legalize it and tax it, then that would reduce the money getting to these murderers you're so worried about.


you not buying a bag of pot won't stop someone from being murdered or free a slave, nor will it reduce the chances of either of these.

we should stop buying gas, so innocent middle easterners will stop being murdered.

Good post. Agree with every point in it

[Roham]

i understand some people can get addicted to things, but i don't think you can get addicted to weed. Then again, i don't feel sorry for people that get addicted to anything, they should have better self control.

I also very strongly agree with this entire post

[ggiese]

The violence that surrounds the black market could be easily avoided by decriminalizing and commercializing the sale of marijuana. The money saved by emptying thousands of jail beds and the money gained by taxation would be astronomical.

Hex - couldn't disagree with you more. If anything, I believe the violence would INCREASE as cartels and syndicates establish themselves in the market. If you looked at the history of prohibition (with alcohol), a lot of violence surrounded that market when it first becamse legal as gangsters staked their territorial claims. And violence still exists today (although you'd never know it...) While it's not publiciized nearly as much, the Chicago mafia is still active and killing people over such things as prostitution, gambling, drugs and of course BOOZE. Hell, they even get touchy over juke boxes (if you don't believe me, open a bar in the Chicago area and buy your own box)!!!

I agree with Sarge - while I rarely get into a violent confrontation with a pothead, I do commonly see pot around other drugs that are seized. Sorry, Jaewing, but marijuana is most definitely a "gateway" drug. I don't know of any heroin addict, crack head, or other heavy drug user that didn't start with marijuana. While most think they can control it, the reality is - many cannot. If you've seen the things that Sarge, BK and myself have seen with individuals who are drug addicted, this discussion wouldn't even be happening... It turns my stomach and makes my job miserable. When little kids ask me what the worst things I've seen, I'd say about 80% is related to drug use.

I say - forget about marijuana and smoke a stogie!!! That's what takes me to another place!

[labmonkey]

i understand some people can get addicted to things, but i don't think you can get addicted to weed. Then again, i don't feel sorry for people that get addicted to anything, they should have better self control.

any substance that changes your state of mind can be addictive. and I'm not trying to sound like an ass about it, but your whole post shows very typical misunderstanding of addiction in general.

[Roham]

any substance that changes your state of mind can be addictive. and I'm not trying to sound like an ass about it, but your whole post shows very typical misunderstanding of addiction in general.

Actually, anything can be addictive. Including chocolate. And that doesn't change your state of mind. I agree with his post because it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form if I go without smoking pot for any amount of time. Now, with cigarettes people say they feel physical withdrawal when not smoking. I quit cold turkey and haven't smoked a cig since, and I personally don't think it was even really physically addictive. It's all mind over matter

[QuietC]

i say friends are gateways to other drugs, haha that and boredom. When i think of addictive things, i'm thinking of things that make you sick when you don't have it and have to have it in order to feel normal. So to me that counts out weed. But as Ggeise said, most can't control their addictions, so it's those people ruining it for the rest of us, damnit.

[cigarsarge]

I too believe marijuana is a gateway drug. I personally know of a young man who started smoking it when he was fifteen. He ran the gambit pot, meth, perscription drugs. He ended up adicted to oxycotin and hydrocodone. He also introduced his yonger brother to marijuana and other drugs. He became addicted to hydrocodone.

The older brother died three years ago due to an oxycotin overdose. He also had marijuana in his system. The younger brother is now a recovering addict.

These young men are my sons. I'm not telling this to get your sympathy. I'm just telling this to say be careful. People that sell you drugs don't give a crap about you. All they want is your dollar. When you are down and out with no money they move to someone else to make their living.

[ggiese]

Actually, anything can be addictive. Including chocolate. And that doesn't change your state of mind. I agree with his post because it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form if I go without smoking pot for any amount of time. Now, with cigarettes people say they feel physical withdrawal when not smoking. I quit cold turkey and haven't smoked a cig since, and I personally don't think it was even really physically addictive. It's all mind over matter

Cigarettes ARE physically addictive. I quite cold turkey and lived through a living hell!!! I couldn't believe how powerful the addiction was until I quit (after I smoked for over 10 years)... That ABSOLUTELY SUCKED!!!