Medical Marijuana

[jaewing]

i smoke pot everyday. i do no harm to other persons, i work a good job that is beyond my education, and i don't believe i deserve to serve time for my activities. which i have. i have never sold any or possessed more than, maybe, a half ounce of marijuana. when i was 17, at school, they did a random search of student's cars at my highschool and found 3 seeds and two little stems on the floor board of my passenger seat and arrested me for possession of .025g of marijuana. i served 18 days in county jail and graduated from an alternative school. i lost a scholarship because of this. i was not smoking at school. i wasn't smoking on the way to school. i didn't bring pot to school. a ticket, perhap would have been appropriate. but our laws don't work that way. but i know, i know. i knew it was illegal and i smoked pot anyway, and i knew what the consequences could be, so its my fault. but its bullshit. its all about the money. the fines we pay. the $200 a day the county receives for every day a person serves. bullshit! = my $.02

so, with that being my opinion; of course i think it should be ok for severly sick people to smoke it.

WOW that seems a bit excessive for .025 (a couple seeds and stems) . . . did they find anything else at home or test you? Not only is that excessive but I would have slo questioned the constitutionality of the search! Did they have a warrant to search the vehicle or did they rely on the motor vehicle exception? Random searches of cars at school seems a bit overreaching to me unless they had more evidence or statements to back up the search and to procure the warrant.

I agree . . . for a couple stems/seeds a fine, probation or community service would have been appropriate if not excessive as well.

[jaewing]

You know what I wanted to try while smoking pot? The new burrito at Taco Bell...(ok a bag full of 'em) and that's if I could tear myself away from Cartoon Network.

LMAO!!!

[Drake]

WOW that seems a bit excessive for .025 (a couple seeds and stems) . . . did they find anything else at home or test you? Not only is that excessive but I would have slo questioned the constitutionality of the search! Did they have a warrant to search the vehicle or did they rely on the motor vehicle exception? Random searches of cars at school seems a bit overreaching to me unless they had more evidence or statements to back up the search and to procure the warrant.

I agree . . . for a couple stems/seeds a fine, probation or community service would have been appropriate if not excessive as well.

there were recent bomb threats, so the search was for the safety of the students. my parents wouldn't help me, so i ended up with a court appointed lawyer, who are paid if a plea is signed. i wasn't about to go to trial for something i knew i was guilty of with a court appointed lawyer, so i plead no contest for a 40 day sentence. my name isn't even on the lease of my girlfriend and my apartment because of my record; a misdemeanor.

[Roham]

WOW that seems a bit excessive for .025 (a couple seeds and stems) . . . did they find anything else at home or test you? Not only is that excessive but I would have slo questioned the constitutionality of the search! Did they have a warrant to search the vehicle or did they rely on the motor vehicle exception? Random searches of cars at school seems a bit overreaching to me unless they had more evidence or statements to back up the search and to procure the warrant.

I agree . . . for a couple stems/seeds a fine, probation or community service would have been appropriate if not excessive as well.

The problem is if he would of wanted a better result he would have had to spend WAY too much on a lawyer. The best he could find probably.

On another note, I went to the states once. And I made sure I emptied out my car of everything before I left. Well at the border they searched my car for an hour(no surprise, I almost expected it). But what blew my mind away was when she called me into her office and showed me a couple specs of green dust(2 small 1mm square pieces of leaf)she found between the seat now sitting on a napkin, as well as a pack of zig zags she found in the glove compartment under EVERYTHING in it( I obviously over looked it when preparing for the trip). For the next 20 minutes I had to assure her there was nothing in the car and I wouldnt of been so stupid and I know better blah blah blah... At the same time she was telling me how this was enough to charge me, hold my car, totally rip it apart searching it etc.... In the end she ended up just letting us pass but I tell ya....

[ggiese]

Don't even think about legalizing Marijuana... The anti-smoking groups would have a field day!!! Hell, I can't even enjoy a cigar in my local bar anymore...

[jaewing]

so i ended up with a court appointed lawyer, who are paid if a plea is signed.

I am not sure where you were from when that occurred but I can tell you that your above statement is generally false.

I spent a year as a bar certified student intern with the Public Defender. I was in court every day representing people for "crimes" like the one you described. We were paid an hourly wage, albeit a very small hourly wage, but it had nothing to do with getting our clients to accept a plea negotiation.

Under the facts you stated about the bomb threat the search of the cars seems proper and within the exception to the warrant requirements.

Your state either has very strict marijuana laws or your were sentenced very harshly if this was your first offense. Generally, similar cases I handled the client received an initial offer of 30 days of "work project" which is out of custody working with the local sheriff's dept. picking up trash on the highway. Generally, that then would be reduced by a third and then if you made no trouble for the Sheriff you were released from work project within 10 - 15 days.

[Drake]

I am not sure where you were from when that occurred but I can tell you that your above statement is generally false.

I spent a year as a bar certified student intern with the Public Defender. I was in court every day representing people for "crimes" like the one you described. We were paid an hourly wage, albeit a very small hourly wage, but it had nothing to do with getting our clients to accept a plea negotiation.

Under the facts you stated about the bomb threat the search of the cars seems proper and within the exception to the warrant requirements.

Your state either has very strict marijuana laws or your were sentenced very harshly if this was your first offense. Generally, similar cases I handled the client received an initial offer of 30 days of "work project" which is out of custody working with the local sheriff's dept. picking up trash on the highway. Generally, that then would be reduced by a third and then if you made no trouble for the Sheriff you were released from work project within 10 - 15 days.

i very well could be mistaken about the court appointed lawyer thing. just what i heard. i live in texas. my first day in court, i saw a girl in college get sentenced to 6 months for her first offence for poss. of an ounce. (she also ran her car into a tree) some of the judges are real asshole about pot. and i had one of them. a lot of people end up with 6 months probation for the first offense with a decent lawyer. o, and my liscence was suspended for a year. ANY drug conviction in the state of texas, lisence gets suspended for a year. DWI's, its just 3 months. our country as a whole is more strict on trafficing marijuana than it is on murder. its just rediculous.

[guenzak]

I am in no way straight laced and I used to smoke pot all the time when I was younger but I have to disagree with Drake on a couple of points. When you say that you are not hurting anyone else by smoking pot that is a bit short sighted. The money that you spend may initially go into the hands of your friendly neighborhood aquaintance but if you follow thet trail all the way the money ends up funding foreign dealers, growers, er organized criminals. They are involved in all sorts of activities including murder, child slavery, etc. to advance their money making ventures. I no longer smoke pot because it led me to other, more dangerous drugs but if I did decide that I wanted to smoke again I would not; simply because of where the money goes. And as long as it is illegal that is where the drug money will continue to go Just something to consider.

Secondly when you say the reason they busted you is all about the money that is not quite correct. If the government were to legalize pot and tax it they would make far more money than they do off of the fines they currently enforce...

[QuietC]

If they're so worried about the money from pot going to other countries and "supporting terrorist" (which i think is a load of crap they just keep saying in order to keep the people of our country scared and that way they can get the people to agree with what they do)then they should watch our borders better and not let it in our country in the first place.
As of weed being a gate way drug, it wasnt that way for me, i've tried alot of things, almost everything out there, but it wasn't because of weed, it was because i wanted to try it.

but then again, thats just my thinking. legalize weed, then the gov. can control it and then they dont have to complain and make of slogans like supporting terrorist, make harsher penalties if your out driving while high or maybe even in public, and make harsher penalties on the harder drugs.

[Drake]

I am in no way straight laced and I used to smoke pot all the time when I was younger but I have to disagree with Drake on a couple of points. When you say that you are not hurting anyone else by smoking pot that is a bit short sighted. The money that you spend may initially go into the hands of your friendly neighborhood aquaintance but if you follow thet trail all the way the money ends up funding foreign dealers, growers, er organized criminals. They are involved in all sorts of activities including murder, child slavery, etc. to advance their money making ventures. I no longer smoke pot because it led me to other, more dangerous drugs but if I did decide that I wanted to smoke again I would not; simply because of where the money goes. And as long as it is illegal that is where the drug money will continue to go Just something to consider.

Secondly when you say the reason they busted you is all about the money that is not quite correct. If the government were to legalize pot and tax it they would make far more money than they do off of the fines they currently enforce...

i don't buy pot that's grown in dirt that came from mexico. i buy pot that is grown in water by someone in my city. and perhaps it is not all about the money. but regardless what the reasoning is, it is senseless. if they would legalize it and tax it, then that would reduce the money getting to these murderers you're so worried about.


you not buying a bag of pot won't stop someone from being murdered or free a slave, nor will it reduce the chances of either of these.

we should stop buying gas, so innocent middle easterners will stop being murdered.