Wall of Shame @ Cigarsmokers.com

**Roham** · 05-14-2008, 11:33 AM

http://www.vitolas.net/wiki/%20scumbags/list

An already compiled list can be found here and anyone wanting to make recommendations should contact that site administrator.

**Diesel Grinch** · 05-14-2008, 11:50 AM

Real Name and address should be posted as it's to easy to come back as someone else.

DG

**ashauler** · 05-14-2008, 12:22 PM

Agree, and why not start with Lukeman8, I have his info.

**BDurrani** · 05-14-2008, 12:42 PM

Wow, only 2 people. Thought there were more.

**ashauler** · 05-14-2008, 01:04 PM

If we go mining through the banned users there would be more additions to the list.......is that the intention of this? Is the list open to all flavors of phucktard or just scammers-thieves only, for example:

Would Chugg...troll phucktard of the highest order......and Superman78..welcher on a SecretSanta......be equally eligible for the wall?

**Diesel Grinch** · 05-14-2008, 01:55 PM

It should be for anyone that scum bag or bad trader. If they cheated, took advantage, didn't follow through, or are just slow. They will earn a spot on the list. If you clean up your act and make things right you can get off. I've seen it happen for certain things. (being slow or behind)

DG

**basil** · 05-14-2008, 04:25 PM

IMO, it's two different catagories. One is trolls who for whatever reason start shit and either get right or get banned. The other is for asshole motherfuckers who gain the confidence of board members and then lie, cheat, steal, etc., and earn a spot on a Wall of Shame.

While apologies and amends can be made, there are points past which there is no return for both catagories.

**Roham** · 05-14-2008, 04:53 PM

I think the wall of shame encompasses racist's and losers as well. I think there should be no hiding for the likes of people like this. And I wiped this up in 20 minutes before I had to run to work, so if you guys feel anyone needs to be added just post a reply with the name and thread and I will edit it and add them as they come...

**Roham** · 05-14-2008, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by basil

IMO, it's two different catagories. One is trolls who for whatever reason start shit and either get right or get banned. The other is for asshole motherfuckers who gain the confidence of board members and then lie, cheat, steal, etc., and earn a spot on a Wall of Shame.

While apologies and amends can be made, there are points past which there is no return for both catagories.

So guys, please, let the debate begin. Should we have the wall of shame just for those that lie cheat steal? Or should it encompass racist and losers as well??

**mithril** · 05-14-2008, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Roham

So guys, please, let the debate begin. Should we have the wall of shame just for those that lie cheat steal? Or should it encompass racist and losers as well??

My vote is both.

**bigwhiteash** · 05-14-2008, 05:04 PM

Both.

just like you have it started, Screen name (plus aliases on other forums, if known) - Real name - List Offenses - Link to offensive thread.

**ashauler** · 05-14-2008, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by bigwhiteash

Both.

just like you have it started, Screen name (plus aliases on other forums, if known) - Real name - List Offenses - Link to offensive thread.

Agree but would add their addresses......if nothing else the city and state to I.D. them under new names/handles.

Here's the one for Lukeman8:
Luke Solomon
TER 432A
1000 Hilltop Circle
Baltimore MD 21250

**nhcigarfan** · 05-14-2008, 05:27 PM

I think the wall should be for all the fuckers who don't agree with me.

**Roham** · 05-14-2008, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by nhcigarfan

I think the wall should be for all the fuckers who don't agree with me.

Thank god I always agree with you!

**Diesel Grinch** · 05-15-2008, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by nhcigarfan

I think the wall should be for all the fuckers who don't agree with me.

Addy in profile.

DG

**Lopaka** · 05-15-2008, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by nhcigarfan

I think the wall should be for all the fuckers who don't agree with me.

Who do you think you are you bastage!

**BigMacFU** · 05-15-2008, 09:33 PM

Thanks for putting this together Roham. I agree, this should have both trolls and scammers/scumbags. the only post for the thread though should probably be the first, Roham can update it with new scumbags when they arise. I don't think we need to rehash and dig up old ones. Maybe just have a link to Moki's scumbag list in the post.

**cinda** · 05-16-2008, 05:45 AM

I think the wall of shame should just be for people with bad trades. By in large Scum bag losers etc could take on a subject feel even maybe a click mentality. If the board decides someone isn't right for this board then they can banned that person as we have seen done here. Putting their name and address up on the wall of shame is going to cause a lot of trouble because not everyone will agree. But if someone is a bad trader then having that person name and address up on the board is a good reference for members and something that has factual bases. Just my 2 cents

**WhiteWidow** · 05-16-2008, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by ashauler

If we go mining through the banned users there would be more additions to the list.......is that the intention of this? Is the list open to all flavors of phucktard or just scammers-thieves only, for example:

Would Chugg...troll phucktard of the highest order......and Superman78..welcher on a SecretSanta......be equally eligible for the wall?

I don't remeber Superman78 doing that but I do know that I sent him some sticks for the free cigars thread and he totally disappeared after that. I sent out a second package to Mavido to start it up again.

**ashauler** · 05-16-2008, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by WhiteWidow

I don't remeber Superman78 doing that but I do know that I sent him some sticks for the free cigars thread and he totally disappeared after that. I sent out a second package to Mavido to start it up again.

http://www.cigarsmokers.com/t3170-the-grinch-list.html post #9 the thread goes to mention the PIF.