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[BigMacFU]

Creative marketing. Sell you less tobacco for the same price. Check out this:

This is in relation to Wrigley's new packaging, but the concept transfers.

Brian Morgan, senior research analyst at Euromonitor, Chicago, concurred: "[Package shrink] is the strategy that has been used in many categories to accomplish a price increase without consumers really noticing or to smooth over the negative reaction."

Morgan added that, in the gum category more so than in other categories, consumers would likely respond positively to slimmer packaging: "Packaging innovations like that do make a difference, independent of what that does to the price."

Though the new packaging is, in effect, a price increase, Wrigley is hailing it as a packaging breakthrough. "Consumers like the fact that [the envelope] is slim, sleek; it feels very contemporary," said Chibe.

[COMB2]

Interesting BigMac

Only one way to find out. I'll let the cigar do the deciding for me

[kevin7]

Ive had a few. Good cigars,worth finding and trying

FWIW I had some before any of the cigar live crew of asshats even heard of em

[drew_goring]

I am not a huge fan of large girth cigars, but I may have to give them a try in the future.

[bigwhiteash]

I'll try them, but if you think about it, if you don't actually NUB it, there's a lot of tobacco left in a 1" X 64 butt, as opposed to a 1" X 48 lonsdale.

I Have heard good things, and I love big cigars. Usually longer vitolas though.

Smokes as long as a churchill, huh?? I bet they smoke really cool

[pub spears]

The hype has gotten old on this cigar. Like to smoke Olivas, want to try this new one, but getting wary of the hype. After the sucess of the V and it's resulting scarcity, Oliva is sure to sell these out weather they're that great or not. The are supposed to be constructed of the finest wrapper, binder and filler, but still be affordable and be a long burning, short cigar? Now I'm all set up to be dissapointed because it doesn't live up to the hype. Maybe they will take some demand off the V's and we can stock up on those.

[chefchris]

I am not a huge fan of large girth

I would like to try one though I do think the idea of hitting the cigar "sweet spot" right off the bat is a little ridiculous.

[BDurrani]

I do think the idea of hitting the cigar "sweet spot" right off the bat is a little ridiculous.

I agree, the site says this would happen but I don't think it will. The "sweet spot" usually occurs after smoking the cigar for some time. The smoke/tobacco/flavor travels from the foot of the cigar towards the head and the flavor builds up.

[ashauler]

I like Oliva's.......but, I don't believe the hype on this smoke and lean more towards this being a creative marketing ploy and little else. I might try one, maybe, but I have many other smokes in that price range I would rather pick up, and large ring gauge cigars are not my first choice.......unless of course they are imported and purchased on free Yahoo internet.

[JFellows]

Creative marketing. Sell you less tobacco for the same price.

There is a LOT of tobacco in a 4x64 cigar...probably as much as in a typical londsale, and certainly more than in a typical robusto (or corona, PC, etc, obviously). These are supposed to retail for around seven bucks, and are apparently quite good. I'd pay $7 for a good lonsdale/robusto/etc, so I don't see the problem here. Innovative =/= gimmicky.

[BigMacFU]

There is a LOT of tobacco in a 4x64 cigar...probably as much as in a typical londsale, and certainly more than in a typical robusto (or corona, PC, etc, obviously). These are supposed to retail for around seven bucks, and are apparently quite good. I'd pay $7 for a good lonsdale/robusto/etc, so I don't see the problem here. Innovative =/= gimmicky.

Depends on the size you get. Their largest ring gauge works, not their narrower ones. (Site had three different gauges). Also larger leafs that are good enough to be wrappers are more expensive, these won't require leaves as large, so the wrappers are less expensive on smaller vitolas too.

[BigMacFU]

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Double posted b/c I was working from my wife's crackberry.