Would you do any type of trade with SFG75

[Bkcloud114]

I usually don't do things like this but after reading how people are getting pissed off and not understanding what CC and George are trying to accomplish I thought this would help.

After reading many of SFG's post and the responses by other members would you do any type of cigar transaction with Scott (pass, trade, split or purchase) ?

[Drake]

it would have to be really worth it (which is typical of any trade for me, because i haven't done one), and i'd have to recieve his end first just because of how many people have said that one should not trade with him. i say give a guy a chance. if i were to trade with him or do a split and he had to send his end first and he'll only recieve my end upon being satisfied with his end, then, he couldn't screw me over anyway. although, i don't recall anyone complaining about his poor trading other than the time he put a beat up cigar in a pass. was there other instances?



i'm not saying i want to do a trade with him, i'm just making a point.




EDIT: I changed my mind. NO

[Hugh Jorgan]

No.

I don't know Scroto to be a "bad trader" in the traditional sense (mooching, late to ship/pay, ueven trades, bad packaging) but I am all too familiair with his sense of right and wrong, how he treats others, and his motives.

I do not believe Scroto would trade unless he felt it suited his agenda. Because of this, I would suggest to others to steer clear of this jerk. .


/ Hugh

[CoventryCat86]

I would never be involved in a pass that he is a participant in. He put a damaged cigar in a pass and when it was brought to his attention, he tried to lie his way out of it and make excuses. The proper thing to do would have been to say "Ooooops, sorry, I'll make good on it." but what does Scotty do? NOTHING!!! What's worse is that it was his own brother-in-law's pass!

If he's going to treat his own brother-in-law like that do you think he'd be any different with others?

As far as box splits or trades, absolutely not. I would never have HIM send me cigar because I doubt he's smart enough or experienced enough to properly package them without them sustaining damage during shipping. Would I take his money and send him a fiver or halfa box of cigars? Again no, he's not the type of person I want to deal with.

[Diesel Grinch]

I wouldn't trade with him just because of what I have heard so far. While nothing is screaming cheater I just don't have that trust which is needed.

[Hugh Jorgan]

Here is a good examle of Scroto's "dealings"

O.k., I'm within striking distance of 1,000. In honor of that, I'm offering up four mystery cigars for you. Two are ISOMs and the others are domestics.

Four "mystery" cigars? Why not specify exactly what you are putting up as stakes?

I suspect the reason is that Scroto wants to see who wins it before having to commit.

If an enemy combatant won it, he'd downgrade. If a newbie won it who hasn't spoken out against him, he'd upgrade the prize.

Scroto is bad news.

[SFG75]

I have done three trades with a member on this board. I've also done a box-split of two boxes with another member. Has anyone of them complained? If so, let me know so that I can make it up. Oh, you mean they haven't?, oh well.

[CoventryCat86]

Here is a good examle of Scroto's "dealings"



Four "mystery" cigars? Why not specify exactly what you are putting up as stakes?

I suspect the reason is that Scroto wants to see who wins it before having to commit.

If an enemy combatant won it, he'd downgrade. If a newbie won it who hasn't spoken out against him, he'd upgrade the prize.

Scroto is bad news.

Shagaroo won. Of course Scroto never even acknowledged that Shagaroo was in the contest.

This oughta be good..........

[SFG75]

Anyone here think I screwed them out of cigars? I'm still waiting, PM if I did.

[Bkcloud114]

I never implied that Scott screwed anybody out of cigars or is a thief. The only point I am trying to make is that due to his posts and his ranting I don't think that he can be trusted as a BOTL. Also from the information received from other BOTLs. There are also other guys over at CP that I would not do any type of transactions with them. If you asked me i would tell you my experiences with them and leave it up to you. If Scott was a thief, he would be on cigarthief.com. Would I trade with Scott..... NO Would I trade with George or Bill....... YES There are alot more people who are disgusted with Scott than there are people disgusted with Bill or George.

I think that Bill and George need a for attempting to inform the Newbies of the type of person they feel Scott is.

[SFG75]

I never implied that Scott screwed anybody out of cigars or is a thief. The only point I am trying to make is that due to his posts and his ranting I don't think that he can be trusted as a BOTL. Also from the information received from other BOTLs. There are also other guys over at CP that I would not do any type of transactions with them. If you asked me i would tell you my experiences with them and leave it up to you. If Scott was a thief, he would be on cigarthief.com. Would I trade with Scott..... NO Would I trade with George or Bill....... YES There are alot more people who are disgusted with Scott than there are people disgusted with Bill or George.

I think that Bill and George need a for attempting to inform the Newbies of the type of person they feel Scott is.

4 trades and 3 splits at CP-anyone complain? Let me know if they did.

[Shagaroo]

Anyone here think I screwed them out of cigars? I'm still waiting, PM if I did.

Um, you, just a few minutes ago, screwed our troops out of cigars. BTW, why do you want it to be a PM? Easier to hide the evidence?

[Bkcloud114]

4 trades and 3 splits at CP-anyone complain? Let me know if they did.

Aren't you banned over there.........

[SFG75]

Did cvmfour ever complain?

[jaewing]

I have in the past and it went just fine. However, my NO vote has nothing to do with PAST trades but has everything to do with that "contest" debacle.

Sorry Scot.

[Leebo]

I have done three trades with a member on this board. I've also done a box-split of two boxes with another member. Has anyone of them complained? If so, let me know so that I can make it up. Oh, you mean they haven't?, oh well.

I have not nor will I ever trade with this guy. Reason being, there are several....

He's not a true BOTL. He's only on the boards to push his warped political and moral agenda.
He claims to be a "master passer" when he has very little experience as far as I'm concerned. He obviously doesn't take care when shipping his cigars in passes, etc.

The contest he did on here is a desperate attempt to salvage his reputation, which is non-existent anyways. He's obviously trying to give the winner the shaft since it was someone he didn't want to win. Only a POS would do this sort of thing.

Scotty is a power-hungry little man who needs to go around flexing his jaw muscles to make up for his deficit physically.....

You're done here I'm afraid.....

[SFG75]

How about golfgar, was he cheated in a trade with me?

[CoventryCat86]

LMFAO!!

Neal voted "Yes"

[Bkcloud114]

You're done here I'm afraid.....

Uh oh....... you've gotten the official Leebo "done" ...... cya



It's like the "kiss of death"

[samclemmons]

Well geez, the question was sufficiently vague as to preclude a negative reply. Let's not get prudence mixed up with stupid.

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