Cubans

[DeeDubya]

"You shouldn't alter your post after you post it - even to remove the "extremely foul language". You might not like the answer - and if you're man enough to toss around foul words - be man enough to stick by them and the consequences they bring. Maybe you won't be so inclined to toss around that nonsense the next time you feel so smited... "

I did not remove foul language, actually I didn't change anything, but it got your attention! I'm not into calling names but if I change my mind you will be the first to know.

[ggiese]

"I suppose the accepted answer would be one that would make you feel better (i.e. - there IS Cuban tobacco in the cigars you smoke - WOO-HOO!!!). While some (as you say) have so "eloquently" answered your question - the question continued to remain comletely unanswered (except for my unacknowledged, lowly, horrible, "god forbid it's true!" opinion). Tough as it is to accept - The reality - nothing could be further from the truth... "

Actually, I respect anyone and everyone's opinion. Basically that's all any forum is, a quagmire of opinions and questions, and one must rely on discernment.
However, getting chastised for asking a question or even proposing a "theory" is just not right.
And, I did search before posting but got so many unrelated results that I just got tired of looking.



"You shouldn't alter your post after you post it - even to remove the "extremely foul language". You might not like the answer - and if you're man enough to toss around foul words - be man enough to stick by them and the consequences they bring. Maybe you won't be so inclined to toss around that nonsense the next time you feel so smited... "

By the way, I did not remove foul language, actually I didn't change anything, but it got your attention! I'm not into calling names but if I change my mind you will be the first to know.

So the "Last edited by DeeDubya : Yesterday at 07:38 PM. Reason: Removed extremely foul language, twice" was not true? Interesting... Hmmm... Social misfit? Class Clown?

I'm sorry - musta missed it - I didn't see any "chastising" going on with your question. I believe I pointed out the theory of Cuban tobacco being put into cigars making their way into the US as being an age old issue, asked numerous times in various forms. It also has been routinely put forth as a "theory". I must admit - typically, though, it is proposed by slobbering knuckle-draggers with big foreheads that don't know any better. And, typically, those that buy into it are similarly endowed...

I've never met you - you haven't been around long - but I'm fairly confident you're not in the "typical" category. Please don't disappoint my high aspirations for you...

[prostartjr1738]

Ive always wondered if cuban grown tobacco was sold to other countries and than rolled/sold under diffrent name. I think that it might not be that good of a move being that if Cubans were legal in the US, most of there sales would be just because its a Cuban. If it wasnt know that it was Cuban tobacco most people (and I say most because a true cigar smoker will smoke what he like if it was cuban or not). Another thing ive been wondering. I see on some of the videos on Cigar Aficianado that they sometimes just come out and say that theyve smoked Cubans. I think in one particular video they are actually smoking a Cuban. Than sometimes at the end the will jokingly say I have never smoked or possesed a cuban cigar. Does that make it ok if you say that after the fact of just admitting to smoking one?

[ggiese]

Ive always wondered if cuban grown tobacco was sold to other countries and than rolled/sold under diffrent name. I think that it might not be that good of a move being that if Cubans were legal in the US, most of there sales would be just because its a Cuban. If it wasnt know that it was Cuban tobacco most people (and I say most because a true cigar smoker will smoke what he like if it was cuban or not). Another thing ive been wondering. I see on some of the videos on Cigar Aficianado that they sometimes just come out and say that theyve smoked Cubans. I think in one particular video they are actually smoking a Cuban. Than sometimes at the end the will jokingly say I have never smoked or possesed a cuban cigar. Does that make it ok if you say that after the fact of just admitting to smoking one?

Read the Cigar Afficianado articles with Michael Jordan...

[cls515]

I don't think Cuba sells their tobacco, they have a limited production and have a hard enough time meeting demands. Sometimes even their own production is not up to "Cuban" expectations.

The Cuban cigars are better. Granted I've had good Nic or Honduran cigars, they aren't better. I'll take a RASCC, Monte #4, Siglo IV, VI, Mag 46, Partagas SDC #3, etc over any non Cuban cigar you can name, period.

Now I guess the Cubans do sell seeds to other countries, as some of the Tatuajes are Cuban seed. And they are pretty dang good cigars. Better than a #4? Not in my opinion. Better than a Cohiba Siglo VI? But they are good cigars. At their price? No.

[King Catfish]

I don't really know a whole lot about cubans, never had one. Whenever I mention cigars, though, I do almost always get asked whether I've had one (mostly by people who do not smoke cigars).

[rsanz]

I don't think Cuba sells their tobacco, they have a limited production and have a hard enough time meeting demands. Sometimes even their own production is not up to "Cuban" expectations.

The Cuban cigars are better. Granted I've had good Nic or Honduran cigars, they aren't better. I'll take a RASCC, Monte #4, Siglo IV, VI, Mag 46, Partagas SDC #3, etc over any non Cuban cigar you can name, period.

Now I guess the Cubans do sell seeds to other countries, as some of the Tatuajes are Cuban seed. And they are pretty dang good cigars. Better than a #4? Not in my opinion. Better than a Cohiba Siglo VI? But they are good cigars. At their price? No.

A certain don gabriel sells their own brand of cigar which they say contains cuban filler/binder and (IIRC) Honduran wrapper. I've had a few and, while interesting, they just don't have the Cuban taste profile I've come to expect. Either it's pretty low grade tobacco or the wrapper really is what constitutes most of the flavour.

Oh and .net

One other thing, isn't most (if not all) tobacco derived from Cuban seed (originally)?

[nhcigarfan]

I think you and ggiese are right. Any tobacco that makes it out is probably the crap.

Considering some of the cuban low end brands that are mixed filler, the stuff shipped out, unless it fetches a pretty price, is probably junk.

[ggiese]

One other thing, isn't most (if not all) tobacco derived from Cuban seed (originally)?

That's a good point...

[cls515]

A certain don gabriel sells their own brand of cigar which they say contains cuban filler/binder and (IIRC) Honduran wrapper. I've had a few and, while interesting, they just don't have the Cuban taste profile I've come to expect. Either it's pretty low grade tobacco or the wrapper really is what constitutes most of the flavour.

Oh and .net

One other thing, isn't most (if not all) tobacco derived from Cuban seed (originally)?

You are correct about Don Gabriel. I was referring to the big boys like Fuente, Ashton, Padron, etc. Don Gabriel cigars with Cuban tobacco is not something you'd expect to find on an American tobacco store shelf.

[ggiese]

"You shouldn't alter your post after you post it - even to remove the "extremely foul language". You might not like the answer - and if you're man enough to toss around foul words - be man enough to stick by them and the consequences they bring. Maybe you won't be so inclined to toss around that nonsense the next time you feel so smited... "

I did not remove foul language, actually I didn't change anything, but it got your attention! I'm not into calling names but if I change my mind you will be the first to know.

Too late!!! I already captured what you removed!!!