Introduction

[ashauler]

You a fan of the 4th of July fireworks shows???

Just step aside and watch!!!

Doesn't look like there will be any fireworks,,,,,at least not any out in the open,,,,,he'll most likely stick to sending chickenshit pm's.

[ggiese]

Doesn't look like there will be any fireworks,,,,,at least not any out in the open,,,,,he'll most likely stick to sending chickenshit pm's.

Yep - that's his style, allright ",,,"

Thanfully my PM box is full - I wouldn't want to waste 60 seconds of my life reading his childish "dribble"(sic) ",,,"

[Cigary]

Yep - that's his style, allright ",,,"

Thanfully my PM box is full - I wouldn't want to waste 60 seconds of my life reading his childish "dribble"(sic) ",,,"

It's either try to man up and talk it out with the person you have an issue with or post up and have this drama keep playing out. Neither of which I am interested in anymore because not all facts are known and to give this anymore air time is a waste of time. I'm not here to convince everyone who reads this stuff that I am right or wrong as much as when a thread first started I opined my opinion as a general statement not directed at any one person in particular. It really didn't matter because I was told that my newbie status was one that did not give me any stature or validity and it's the rules on some boards that if you don't have enough numbers for posts your opinion pretty much is meaningless. I guess if I had a post count in the hundreds then I would be perceived as someone who has stature and wisdom. When I was attacked personally by some I attacked back which in hindsight was ridiculous because it only served to make things worse.

It's been weeks and if there are those who have an issue with me reading posts or learning things in the threads then obviously, this isn't a place that I thought it was because mature men and women will usually give others the benefit of the doubt before attacking en masse. For those who follow after me and become new members remember that your opinion means nothing until you have the required number of posts or if you are brought to this forum by means of another member and are readily accepted. Never too late to learn valuable lessons in life.

[basil]

It's either try to man up and talk it out with the person you have an issue with or post up and have this drama keep playing out. Neither of which I am interested in anymore because not all facts are known and to give this anymore air time is a waste of time.

Then why the fuck are you here wasting time?

I'm not here to convince everyone who reads this stuff that I am right or wrong as much as when a thread first started I opined my opinion .

Oh. Fucking really??

as a general statement not directed at any one person in particular.
It really didn't matter because I was told that my newbie status was one that did not give me any stature or validity and it's the rules on MOST, IF NOT ALL boards that if you don't have enough numbers for posts your opinion pretty much is meaningless.

Pretty much. But then there are whiney little bitchass punk motherfuckers like yourself with a sense of entitlement who think that they should be allowed to just troll up a place to their heart's content.

I guess if I had a post count in the hundreds then I would be perceived as someone who has stature and wisdom.

Wouldn't hold my breath on this one.

When I was attacked personally by some I attacked back which in hindsight was ridiculous because it only served to make things worse.

Wow for you hindsight must mean when it's so dark you can't see because you have your head stuck up your ass.

It's been weeks and if there are those who have an issue with me reading posts or learning things in the threads then obviously, this isn't a place that I thought it was because mature men and women will usually give others the benefit of the doubt before attacking en masse.

lmfao!

For those who follow after me and become new members remember that your opinion means nothing until you have the required number of posts or if you are brought to this forum by means of another member and are readily accepted. Never too late to learn valuable lessons in life.

Too bad you'll never get it.

[Soli]

we gonna give this guy a chance to make new or do we just get the torches and pitchfork?

[ashauler]

we gonna give this guy a chance to make new or do we just get the torches and pitchfork?

NO.....this guy has had his chances. There is no fresh start policy here, your actions at other places follow you, good or bad. IMHO, it would be better for you to just watch this.


Cigary,
You owe tremendous apologies to many.

It's either try to man up and talk it out with the person you have an issue with or post up and have this drama keep playing out.

Is this, http://www.cigarsnobs.com/forum/inde...showtopic=3214, what you call talking it out?

[NullSmurf]

You're what, 53, and you haven't learned how not to be a dick? You can't "man up" and duke it out on the Internet, Gary. I wish I could, but there isn't enough left of my body. You have to be articulate and to some extent, diplomatic. The Floating Fat man on Cigar Live quietly swept you under the rug, as is his style for those who annoy him. Banned on CigarPass for spouting shit, public and private. Where else are you no longer welcome? You're running out of boards, Gary.

I voted here once when I should not have, but I'd suggest you give him another chance. I think he is actually trying to contribute to the community.

[Cigary]

we gonna give this guy a chance to make new or do we just get the torches and pitchfork?

Finally a voice of reason here. I am on here reading the posts as does everyone else and the only people I see doing what I am accused of is the people who keep this going. I am not attacking anyone on here and I don't plan on doing that even when the very same people who are doing that to me continue. As with most cigar forums there are plenty of decent people out there and who can read between the lines and judge for themselves. Look at all of the posts on here that went negative when I simply came on here to introduce myself. I guess it's the mature thing to go on the hunt to other boards to discredit someone else and that is why I said it was childish behavior. If it isn't then again, judge for yourself what that kind of behavior is.

Soli says it quite well that people should be given the benefit but I guess some others never make mistakes and they are quite ready to judge others with the torches and pitchforks.

[basil]

Finally a voice of reason here.

See, here's a perfect example of how you don't get it. We got a guy who, although is most likely a decent fellow (this would be the benefit of the doubt everyone gets, including you I would imagine), posts comments without being around long enough to figure out the board works, establish cred, etc. Yet this is who you hold up as the voice of reason. You should add his name to the list of those to whom you owe an apology for cynically using him to establish your (non)position.

I am on here reading the posts as does everyone else and the only people I see doing what I am accused of is the people who keep this going. I am not attacking anyone on here and I don't plan on doing that even when the very same people who are doing that to me continue.

Oh wow. A fucking martyr. I guess we are gonna need those torches.

As with most cigar forums there are plenty of decent people out there and who can read between the lines and judge for themselves.

lol! Unfortunately for you, we read the black part over here.

Look at all of the posts on here that went negative when I simply came on here to introduce myself. I guess it's the mature thing

Now we're seeing your true colors - sarcasm is always a great way to win friends!

to go on the hunt to other boards to discredit someone else and that is why I said it was childish behavior. If it isn't then again, judge for yourself what that kind of behavior is.

Soli says it quite well that people should be given the benefit but I guess some others never make mistakes and they are quite ready to judge others with the torches and pitchforks.

Soli only posted because he hasn't been around long enough to recognize a fucked up POS troll when he sees one. But keep up the tutorial asshole.

[basil]

Answer

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Some people like to think they know everything and then there are people like you who feel they know everything and rationalize their bizarre behavior. You are one of the 'shark' people who attack just out of the sense of seeing blood and you churn the water because you enjoy it. If I were the kind of person you think I'd be on here doing what you accuse me of and I haven't. I answer man to man without going into the public forum to 'justify' my attacking behavior. I don't know you from Adam and I can't make an accurate assessment of who you are except what you have shown. You don't know me either and you think you can make a 100% assessment of who I am. At least NULLSMURF ( Bruce ) has backed off with the statement he made in the post and I give him credit for saying what he did. For you, I guess you can continue your quest for some kind of validation for trying to 'get' me but at the end of the day what are you really getting? I go to bed and get up the next day just like I have everyday without so much as a thought about losing any sleep because of your frenzy. You are only getting this PM because I at least am man enough to try and settle things one on one but it appears you can't say the same because you need an audience to justify your behavior. Funny how you see your actions as normal and my actions weren't even close to what you exhibit. You may post this if you need to in the forum if that is your wish but at least quote the whole PM and not edit parts out to make you look like you have some kind of integrity.

Enjoy your day and try to keep yourself under control before you have a stroke.

<sigh> just received this little gem. I don't have to know you very well in order to know that you expect others to share your reality, skewed as it may be, upon pain of harassing and haranguing those with your blathering drivel; in short, a troll. Someone over at CP said it much better and more succinctly than I could:

"This is, by the way, a self moderated forum. The system works, if marred by a little excess from time to time. Do stop trying to change the way things are run here mate, because you won't get far. Most of us who stick around do so because we are comfortable with how things are done. You can see how we would react harshly to new members thinking they know better.


To sum up: Less with the moral superiority, and more attention to good grammar please."

----- Macion Grey

Yeah, I am a "shark people". And this is what you get for bein' such a fuckin' bucket of chum.