Cigarsmokers Box Split

[ben1000]

We get a lot of green people who want to participate in things, we see them once, and then never see them again.

With the treatment of newbies I've seen here, I'm not surprised you see so few of them ever again, although I appreciate the first coherent response.

I only posted because the rules of this thread SPECIFICALLY said that you accept newbies, and that being an asshat was prohibited. So I reach out to make an offer, and I'm shot down and then insulted.

Yes, I'm new, but as a newbie, I've read and posted on quite a few forums over the past little while, including Puff, CA, CG, and others, and this is the first time I've ever been treated like this. I've often seen on other, non-cigar forums how older users can create their own little fiefdoms to lord over, but this is the first time I've experienced it first hand on a Cigar-related message board.

This can be the final post on the subject, unless you won't feel satisfied without having the last word. I don't want to ruin your fun.

-Ben

[ashauler]

With the treatment of newbies I've seen here, I'm not surprised you see so few of them ever again, although I appreciate the first coherent response.

I only posted because the rules of this thread SPECIFICALLY said that you accept newbies, and that being an asshat was prohibited. So I reach out to make an offer, and I'm shot down and then insulted.

Yes, I'm new, but as a newbie, I've read and posted on quite a few forums over the past little while, including Puff, CA, CG, and others, and this is the first time I've ever been treated like this. I've often seen on other, non-cigar forums how older users can create their own little fiefdoms to lord over, but this is the first time I've experienced it first hand on a Cigar-related message board.

This can be the final post on the subject, unless you won't feel satisfied without having the last word. I don't want to ruin your fun.

-Ben

I'm confused as to where exactly you were insulted. Please enlighten me.

[mrtr33]

Yes, I'm new, but as a newbie, I've read and posted on quite a few forums over the past little while, including Puff, CA, CG, and others, and this is the first time I've ever been treated like this.

Did you see this guys? He posts on PUFF! He's a real cigar smoker! Now we've pissed him off!

This can be the final post on the subject, unless you won't feel satisfied without having the last word. I don't want to ruin your fun.

What you don't understand here, Ben, is the word "newbie". I think of a newbie having < 100 posts, not some asshole who shows up on a split day one and demands to participate. I would call that person a puffnozzle.

I, too, don't see where you've been bullied. You asked to be part of a trade, and were denied. You then demanded to be part of a trade, citing your interpretation of the rules, and then denied. Then you insult the fine members of this forum. It doesn't look like badwhale is the one bullying. You asked and were told no. Grow a fucking pair of balls.

[ben1000]

Your replies are your own indictment. Never seen such shallow and sophomoric responses. Take a look at what you've written and see if you think it exemplifies the ideal of the friendly cigar smoking brotherhood and lifestyle.

Since you're all 'real' cigar smokers, not like those on other forums, I know you'll enjoy the self-reflection.

I've demanded nothing except to be accorded respect and decency, but perhaps that's beyond the scope of your mission here.

I'll go and leave you cool kids to your fun. Enjoy your target practice.

Ben

[TachyCoventry]

Ben

In Will's original response he was kind, cordial and completely clear to you on what you should do. Post an introduction, hang around a little bit. He even mentioned that splits like this come up all the time. I understand that you are a little bit upset that you were denied in this box split but you have to understand that if you just said something to the effect of "OK I understand that you don't want a complete stranger joining, I will just catch the next one" none of this would have happened. By starting to call out one of the senior members of the forum, a member who contributes as much if not more than everyone else is just poor form on your part.

It normally takes a couple of days to get your account activated. During that time did you not come across a single instance of a newb meltdown? In the future, just realize that this is a close knit family and the members don't appreciate someone new coming in and asking to participate in box splits and such without so much as an introduction.

Good luck on the other forums, I'm sorry that this one didn't work out for you but if you took the advice in Will's original response this never would have happened.

Cody

[ben1000]

Daigz...

In my first response I completely agreed that it was his call, and I offer to be included if he had any left over. I demanded nothing. I even made fun of myself saying how I'd just doubled my posts, and ended with a smiley so my intentions were obvious.

For that I received obscenities, insults, and sarcasm. Senior or not, that was out of line, and being in the majority doesn't make you right in this case.

Thankfully there are a lot of options for cigar communities (of course, none filled with real smokers like her).

I wont let the door hit me...blah blah blah...

Ben

[badwhale]

Now you're trolling.

I took your first post as a bit rude for your first interaction on this or almost any cigar forum.

I took your second post as pushy, especially for someone who didn't heed the original advice of posting an intro, and hanging out for a while. But how was I to know by a smiley that you were poking fun at yourself? How would you know that I wasn't laughing inclusively while typing "no shit it's my call"?

Oh wait, you knew all this from your 2 days of interaction on the boards. Well, since you're an expert of this forum, and a vastly superior judge of character, you know we're all going to bully you outta here, so why not just leave now? Or do you have to have the last word?

Will

[buzz]

I'm already gone

See ya

This can be the final post on the subject

I'll go and leave you cool kids to your fun

I wont let the door hit me

Umm... bye?

-Buzz

[mrtr33]

Your replies are your own indictment. Never seen such shallow and sophomoric responses. Take a look at what you've written and see if you think it exemplifies the ideal of the friendly cigar smoking brotherhood and lifestyle.

Since you're all 'real' cigar smokers, not like those on other forums, I know you'll enjoy the self-reflection.

I've demanded nothing except to be accorded respect and decency, but perhaps that's beyond the scope of your mission here.

I'll go and leave you cool kids to your fun. Enjoy your target practice.

Ben

When I initially read this post, I took offense, like you wrote it in response to my post immediately above it. But I'm not that shallow.

Then I wondered who you were directing your tirade to, and I guess I'm still wondering. What were you honestly expecting? This IS the ideal cigar board, and our little family over here works just fine. Don't think you're going to come here and change it. You obviously don't agree with how things are done here, so there's no need to keep putting down how this board works.

I still fail to see where you've been disrespected, bullied, even insulted. Yet you don't hesitate to say we're the ones doing that to you. Now who is being sophomoric?

[ashauler]

Your replies are your own indictment. Never seen such shallow and sophomoric responses. Take a look at what you've written and see if you think it exemplifies the ideal of the friendly cigar smoking brotherhood and lifestyle.

Since you're all 'real' cigar smokers, not like those on other forums, I know you'll enjoy the self-reflection.

I've demanded nothing except to be accorded respect and decency, but perhaps that's beyond the scope of your mission here.

I'll go and leave you cool kids to your fun. Enjoy your target practice.

Ben

What does this, and your subsequent ramblings, have to do with how you were insulted? Still don't see it.

[heftysmokes]

What does this, and your subsequent ramblings, have to do with how you were insulted? Still don't see it.

Shaddup bully.

[Mizicke5273]

Shaddup bully.

See. The bullies ARE kept in line.

[ashauler]

See. The bullies ARE kept in line.

Hey, you have to have at least 1,000 posts to call me a bully.