I feel so old and SO naive

[CoventryCat86]

You're right, Bill. I searched for hours to find statistics to back up my arguments and finally stumbled across this crazy left-wing website. Oh, no, wait...



I'm glad you looked at the name of the link, or maybe even clicked on it. If you would have found the actual part that I quoted, you would have seen that 7600 number was taken from the "Surface Transportation Policy Project, July 2003" Oh, wait, that's a non-profit. Fuck, nevermind, I'm sure they're up to no good making up numbers.

And you're right about about the bullshit $7600 number. I wish our yearly auto budget was so low. Good for your daughter's thriftiness, (and sorry for her illness) but if you think she's the norm you have a fucking screw loose.
Here's another "real life example"...720/month in car payments (8640), 140/month auto insurance (1680), $150/month gas (1800), $80 for 4 oil changes/year (320), $500/registration.......for a grand total of $12940. I'm not saying that's normal, either, but that 7600 number is starting to look more like the average.

And don't you call me a fucking liar. Oh, wait, I know where this will go, you'll say "Where did I call you a liar? If you look at what I wrote, blah blah blah, you'll see I never said 'hefty is a liar'" but I really don't think you're fooling anyone with the double talk.

Edit To Add: I'm done with this thread. If anyone has anything to say to me about the lies I'm spewing, feel free to do so via PM.

You are doing what ashauler and some others are doing, getting all sensitive and reading things into what I said and you're coming up wrong. I did not call YOU a liar or insinuate you are one, my "Another example of statistics don't lie but liars use statistics....... " was clearly directed at the site where you dug up the questionable statistics, NOT AT YOU so don't you and Jamie start jumping to conclusions and continue to either mistakenly think I'm saying things I'm not or you and Jamie are doing it deliberately just to be assholes. Either way the both of you are wrong and now you're just trying to start trouble which you're free to do anytime you like.

And Jaime, I think you're going off the deep end which as with Hefty, you're free to do anytime and any day you like so don't let me stop you.

[ashauler]

You are doing what ashauler and some others are doing, getting all sensitive and reading things into what I said and you're coming up wrong. I did not call YOU a liar or insinuate you are one, my "Another example of statistics don't lie but liars use statistics....... " was clearly directed at the site where you dug up the questionable statistics, NOT AT YOU so don't you and Jamie start jumping to conclusions and continue to either mistakenly think I'm saying things I'm not or you and Jamie are doing it deliberately just to be assholes. Either way the both of you are wrong and now you're just trying to start trouble which you're free to do anytime you like.

And Jaime, I think you're going off the deep end which as with Hefty, you're free to do anytime and any day you like so don't let me stop you.

LMMFAO. You tried to turn this political, violating board rules btw, and you didn't succeed. You still haven't answered my question as to who brought up the occupy people and why. All you Bill, all you.

I'm sorry that you think I'm going off the deep end. Your concern for my mental health is touching; odd and misplaced, but touching none-the-less. Sensitive....me, really? Again, sorry, but I find that laughable.

If indeed I am "going off the deep end" I would expect to be told that by other senior members of the board.....my pm box isn't full, and I see nothing in it chastising me for my behavior here, nor do I see any posts in this thread, other than yours, confronting me and/or telling me I'm going "off the deep end".

You have made no effort to refute my claims with facts and instead have chosen to insult and call names. IMO, anyone with a modicum of common sense will see this thread for what it is: You treating a newer member badly for no reason and getting called on it. Nothing more, nothing less. I've been active in it for the sole reason that I feel somewhat responsible for your attempted shit on JiveTurkey, since I asked him the question.

Now you're trying to squirm out of the fact that you insinuated hefty was a liar. Who "used" the statistics in this thread Bill? The website that produced them didn't post them here, Aaron did. See, if you wanna get all technical and shit, that's cool too.....you posted "liars use statistics", not "produce" or "publish".

Anyway, I think I'm pretty well done with this thread until such time as you can either:
1. Factually refute my claims.
2. Answer the questions posed to you in this thread.

If you can factually refute my claim that more than a "very small percentage" of the population of North America is served by public transportation, I'll admit my error, because I'm an adult, and that's the way it should be done. If you can't, admit it, or just STFU....either way, makes me no difference.

[CoventryCat86]

LMMFAO. You tried to turn this political, violating board rules btw, and you didn't succeed. You still haven't answered my question as to who brought up the occupy people and why. All you Bill, all you.

I'm sorry that you think I'm going off the deep end. Your concern for my mental health is touching; odd and misplaced, but touching none-the-less. Sensitive....me, really? Again, sorry, but I find that laughable.

If indeed I am "going off the deep end" I would expect to be told that by other senior members of the board.....my pm box isn't full, and I see nothing in it chastising me for my behavior here, nor do I see any posts in this thread, other than yours, confronting me and/or telling me I'm going "off the deep end".

You have made no effort to refute my claims with facts and instead have chosen to insult and call names. IMO, anyone with a modicum of common sense will see this thread for what it is: You treating a newer member badly for no reason and getting called on it. Nothing more, nothing less. I've been active in it for the sole reason that I feel somewhat responsible for your attempted shit on JiveTurkey, since I asked him the question.

Now you're trying to squirm out of the fact that you insinuated hefty was a liar. Who "used" the statistics in this thread Bill? The website that produced them didn't post them here, Aaron did. See, if you wanna get all technical and shit, that's cool too.....you posted "liars use statistics", not "produce" or "publish".

Anyway, I think I'm pretty well done with this thread until such time as you can either:
1. Factually refute my claims.
2. Answer the questions posed to you in this thread.

If you can factually refute my claim that more than a "very small percentage" of the population of North America is served by public transportation, I'll admit my error, because I'm an adult, and that's the way it should be done. If you can't, admit it, or just STFU....either way, makes me no difference.

You truly are going off the deep end, I did not try to make this "political" and as far as my reference to the "occupy" movement, you must have missed the icon because it was meant to be nothing more than a joke. You're just trying to turn that into something it's not. Jive, if I offended you with the "occupy" wisecrack because Jamie thinks I did, I'm sorry because that was not my intent. Jamie, I don't give a rat's ass what you think because you're out of control and you're off the deep end.

And no you asshole, I did not insinuate Hefty was a liar, so you can stop that $hit anytime now.

[cigarsarge]

I think it is time to cool it guys...

[ashauler]

You truly are going off the deep end, I did not try to make this "political" and as far as my reference to the "occupy" movement, you must have missed the icon because it was meant to be nothing more than a joke. You're just trying to turn that into something it's not. Jive, if I offended you with the "occupy" wisecrack because Jamie thinks I did, I'm sorry because that was not my intent. Jamie, I don't give a rat's ass what you think because you're out of control and you're off the deep end.

And no you asshole, I did not insinuate Hefty was a liar, so you can stop that $hit anytime now.

Cool, you answered a question, thank you. Your answer begs follow up questions, but that's ok, no need. Perhaps it wasn't JiveTurkey that was offended, but, wait, you don't give a rat's ass.

OK, Ken message received, I'm done.

[Roham]

Thank god this is in the "Humor" section.... lol

[JiveTurkey]

Thank god this is in the "Humor" section.... lol

[cinda]

Now this was funny!