swing and slide...

bigpoppapuff · 08-28-2006, 10:27 PM

the reality is that high school kids SHOULD NOT be on the bb....who the fuck made you the voice here??....

bigpoppapuff · 08-28-2006, 10:29 PM

hey empire...what fucking cred have you built up in your short stay??....read more and type less you fucking tool....

**WOXOF** · 08-29-2006, 02:59 AM

Maybe there's a way for Hex to incorporate an age check with his policy on new registrations having to be validated. You could do it according to which state they live in and the law for that particular state. That could get complicated though. Even if someone lies about their age to get through, I think the members here do a pretty good job of spotting the trolls and asshats that try to sneak in.

**cinda** · 08-29-2006, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

hey empire...what fucking cred have you built up in your short stay??....read more and type less you fucking tool....

I do not think being mean to people when they have a valid thought is the best example from a Senior member. Anyone can lie and make it all up bottom line. Thats all he was saying. Its the last thing I say on the whole thing

**planenut** · 08-29-2006, 08:46 AM

Even when you buy online, they don't really require much proof... Just click on the drop down box and fill in your birthdate.. Of course you use a CC.
This will be really hard to validate if not impossible. Especially if that black out all the info. Even if they don't black out info, what is to stop them from copying someone else's license who is of age?

I think all you can do is have them fill out a form that says they are and then trust or not.. It's up to whomever is dealing with them.

My .02

**thepyrofish** · 08-29-2006, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by planenut

Even when you buy online, they don't really require much proof... Just click on the drop down box and fill in your birthdate.. Of course you use a CC.
This will be really hard to validate if not impossible. Especially if that black out all the info. Even if they don't black out info, what is to stop them from copying someone else's license who is of age?

I think all you can do is have them fill out a form that says they are and then trust or not.. It's up to whomever is dealing with them.

My .02

Exactly. The same way that Hex wouldn't be liable if they say they're over 18, I think none of us would be either. As long as the person had led us to believe they were 18. Which they would automatically be doing by joining the site.

**cigar no baka** · 08-29-2006, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by cinda

I do not think being mean to people when they have a valid thought is the best example from a Senior member. Anyone can lie and make it all up bottom line. Thats all he was saying. Its the last thing I say on the whole thing

That's Sid in a nutshell...full of anger and hatred.

**coop-a-loop** · 08-29-2006, 12:21 PM

I would have to say the age of a high school senior is about half and half 18 or 17 alot of the people i hang out with are almost 19 and going in to 12th grade. Sometimes i remember when i was 14 or 15 it was much cheaper and faster to get my hands on some swag compared to trying to find someone thats 18 and tiping them for their trouble.

bigpoppapuff · 08-29-2006, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

That's Sid in a nutshell...full of anger and hatred.

not really bitch...just toward you....another asshat who slipped through the cracks....almost 1000 posts...like a seinfeld show...about nothing and virtually no cred...baka...you're a piece of shit...

btw...i thought i was on ignore....

**Shelby07** · 08-29-2006, 01:05 PM

I think Hex needs to be careful here. I don't know what the provisions on a BB site are, but I do know that there is an agreement that each of us has to agree to stating that we are a certain age. Perhaps it should be 21 on this board.

I say that Hex needs to be careful because I believe if he starts requiring ID, then he takes on the responsibility to ensure the ID provided is legitimate, just as it does in a liquor store, bar or B&M... i.e., serving a minor in a bar who provides false ID will still get the bar owner slapped with a fine.

I agree with Sid in principal that those under 21 should be discouraged from posting, but I don't know how to require verification without taking the liability associated with it.

Make sense??

BTW - I graduated HS on schedule in June of 1968 in NJ - I turned 18 2 months before (April)

**Stryprod** · 08-29-2006, 02:16 PM

One question... does anyone know of anyone who has been busted for providing Cigars to a minor on this or another board??? Can you be busted for sending an underaged kid cigars?; probably but what are the chances that it is going to happen, let alone you being caught. Im not advocating illegal activity but the law is more concerned with kids getting alcohol of the internet than cigars and I highly doubt there are any feds lurking to take advantage of us. Simple rule is that if you do not feel comfortable selling any to some suspected kid, don't do it because other than a hunch, you will never know their true age even w/ easy to lie/hack age verif.

**Empire23** · 08-29-2006, 03:56 PM

I never said I was the voice or had a ton of expirience like you do, I was just giving my opinion like you (BPP) did with your first post in this thread.

**Stryprod** · 08-29-2006, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Empire23

I never said I was the voice or had a ton of expirience like you do, I was just giving my opinion like you did with your first post in this thread.

Although I know who you are talking about, generally you want to clairify who you are talking about. FYI: this comment is not meant to be rude or snooty, just a tip!

**Empire23** · 08-29-2006, 04:25 PM

Heh, thanks, I edited it so no one else gets that impression also. Thanks 8)

**hex1848** · 08-29-2006, 04:29 PM

I'm all for adding a requirement to the rules and regulations that members be 18 +. This discussion has been beat to death all over the Internet. MySpace has the same problem (obviously different age prerequisite), but there is currently no real way to validate someone’s age – it’s based on the touch of a keypad and the click of a mouse.

**cls515** · 08-29-2006, 04:32 PM

I think age is an appropriate thing to consider on this board. I was unaware that the legal smoking age in some states is 19. Is there a minimum age required for registering here? I can't remember.

bigpoppapuff · 08-29-2006, 04:48 PM

the legal age is 18 in most states...i really don't want to have interaction with someone who is 18 or possibly younger...instead of talking about cigars,the kids should be seeing if they might be able to go out with the hottest cheerleader....

empire...have you sent cigars to anyone??....i have...and do on a fairly regular basis.....to infer that i can or cannot send cigars is pretty fucking stupid on your part....you proved to me with your post that you're an asshole.,..and cinda...no need to play house mother...it was uncalled for..

it IS illegal to send cigars to someone under 18....i'd hate to be held responsible if a kids' parent(s) decided to take action against me...which could happen....better to make 21 the age for joining here....it gives us a little leeway....

**Empire23** · 08-29-2006, 05:10 PM

Well maybe then Hex should make a desicion on what age we should allow here or we can take a vote.

When I send cigars to someone I will take the measures to ensure that im not sending cigars to someone who is underage, but to discriminate and say someone shouldnt be allowed on this board because of their age, then I think that is absurd.

How would you like it if someone else here told you that YOU (any of you), could not be at the board because of their age? I dont think being on a board discussing tabacco is illegal in any state, no matter what your age. If it is, then there should be an age limit. Being on this board does not mean you are going to recieve tabacco products in any way.