Seasoning the humidor....in-season

[SideWinder]

A buddy of mine has a Reverse osmosis thingy. He has a bunch of saltwater fish tanks he has to keep supplied. I think the RO should be just as good as distilled water if you don't have to buy it(already have the RO thingy). But you still need the beads.

I have a container of Madelaine's Crystal Clear Tobacco Humidifier. Forgive my ignorance, but is that what you're calling "beads?"

[indysmoker]

having had a 200 gallon reeftank.....and A Reverse osmosis unit....it is just as good if not better than distilled water. Same thing a different way of getting there....Reverse osmosis basically runs the water through different filters using a slow and high pressurized process. one of which I know is charcoal. I used it to keep a different type of "stick" healthy....coral.....A coral frag (maybe the size of your pinky) could run anywhere from 25 to 75 and up.....RO water is okay to use.

cited proof (hey its on the internet)
The answer is distilled and r/o are so close in quality that it is a 'wash'.
Some say (I agree) that r/o has better flavor because the oxygen hasn't been boiled out of it. Distilled tends to have a 'flat' taste. R/O is far more convenient and cost effective. The difference is that distilled cost about 3 to 5 times as much per gallon to produce. My home has a special R/O lead-free tap and a connection to the ice maker. That is hard to do with any bottled water. There are some fine r/o systems out there. You can visit WQA.org and look up "drinking water devices". Whatever you choose make sure they meet the WQA and NSF standards for performance. You can check them out at NSF.org. The National Sanitation Foundation is the most respected lab for that sort of thing, and the Water Quality Association represents water treatment equipment dealers world wide. So your decision is really one of convenience and what you feel comfortable with. Good Luck, hope I helped, Fred

[WOXOF]

I have a container of Madelaine's Crystal Clear Tobacco Humidifier. Forgive my ignorance, but is that what you're calling "beads?"

They'll do, but I would upgrade to the Heartfelt beads from Viper(do a search, lots of good info on them in here)

having had a 200 gallon reeftank.....and A Reverse osmosis unit....it is just as good if not better than distilled water. Same thing a different way of getting there....Reverse osmosis basically runs the water through different filters using a slow and high pressurized process. one of which I know is charcoal. I used it to keep a different type of "stick" healthy....coral.....A coral frag (maybe the size of your pinky) could run anywhere from 25 to 75 and up.....RO water is okay to use.

cited proof (hey its on the internet)
The answer is distilled and r/o are so close in quality that it is a 'wash'.
Some say (I agree) that r/o has better flavor because the oxygen hasn't been boiled out of it. Distilled tends to have a 'flat' taste. R/O is far more convenient and cost effective. The difference is that distilled cost about 3 to 5 times as much per gallon to produce. My home has a special R/O lead-free tap and a connection to the ice maker. That is hard to do with any bottled water. There are some fine r/o systems out there. You can visit WQA.org and look up "drinking water devices". Whatever you choose make sure they meet the WQA and NSF standards for performance. You can check them out at NSF.org. The National Sanitation Foundation is the most respected lab for that sort of thing, and the Water Quality Association represents water treatment equipment dealers world wide. So your decision is really one of convenience and what you feel comfortable with. Good Luck, hope I helped, Fred

yeah what he said.

[cls515]

Some say (I agree) that r/o has better flavor because the oxygen hasn't been boiled out of it. Distilled tends to have a 'flat' taste.

I'm pretty sure distilled water that you find in the grocery store is more free of contaminants than the reverse osmosis water.

You don't boil out oxygen when distilling. If you did that, you wouldn't end up with water. The process works by taking some water, boiling it so that water evaporates, while the impurities in the water does not. The evaporated, pure water vapor, is allowed to condense and is collected.

[indysmoker]

that was taken out of a website (not my personal opinion) and I think it was an opinion by the author. You do boil hydrogen and oxygen and it does remove some hydrogen and oxgen atoms.


distilling is the process of boiling contaminants out....(like a hot spring)

osmosis is the process of pushing water through layers of filters to remove the finest of particles that boiling may or may not remove....i think either is suitable for your cigars.
For god sakes in the old days they used fruit in humidors that were fertilized with human and animal feces.

lets just say that both will are acceptable. However, it is easier to just go buy a gallon of distilled water rather than buying a 189.00 reverse osmosis unit.....but if you have the ro unit..why not use it.

[SideWinder]

I'm having problems with the heartfelt industries website. It isnt coming up. I am also unable to ping the domain name. Has it changed from what is posted in Viper's profile?

[cls515]

that was taken out of a website (not my personal opinion) and I think it was an opinion by the author. You do boil hydrogen and oxygen and it does remove some hydrogen and oxgen atoms.


distilling is the process of boiling contaminants out....(like a hot spring)

osmosis is the process of pushing water through layers of filters to remove the finest of particles that boiling may or may not remove.

You are correct to say 02 and H2 are boiled out. But when referring to distillation that is not the point. My misunderstanding.

When distilling, contaminants are not boiled out. Water is boiled however, but the point is to recollect the water vapor. Recollecting the vapor and allowing it to condense will give you pure water. That is why it tastes flatter than the reverse osmosis unit. The RO is not as pure.

Yeah I'm familiar with RO systems. Most labs use a similar system when they need to use lab grade water. However, it is a lot bigger with many more levels of filters.

[indysmoker]

yes..i had one that did 90 gallons per day...cost me 170 i think for the unit.......i really have little scientific background (i am a managment/econ guy) so I will not pretend scientifically which is better. But I have to say it is pretty moot.....
eddie

[cls515]

yes..i had one that did 90 gallons per day...cost me 170 i think for the unit.......i really have little scientific background (i am a managment/econ guy) so I will not pretend scientifically which is better. But I have to say it is pretty moot.....
eddie

I'm not out to argue with you, just want to get things squared away. A lab grade filtration unit will cost around $1000. I think some of the smaller basic systems will run around $750. Water from the RO unit will be better than using tap water, but I would much rather use distilled water than the RO water.