The Admin over there got a lot of people from the cigar industry involved in the site
BFD,we gots lots of cigar industry types on HP and they are not saints. If they f**k up they get their neck stepped on just like anybody else including me. Some of then are great guys some are used car salesmen turds. When you cowtow to manufactures and the likes you comprimise the integrity of a board. It just becomes a shill site for the manufacturers and is of no value to anybody except a mouthpiece for selling certian cigars.

Case in point is them avalon cigars,HP hated them and he (avalon) ain't been back since,too bad so sad but according to a LOT of people who's opinions I value they were nasty. Now if it were on cigarlive you would have to sing their praises like it was cigar manna from heaven or face the long ( weak,spindly)arm of the asswipe admin and mod team.

Maybe if I send a bomb of 3 shitty dried out Phillipino and 2 fake cubans cigars to one of them asswipes I could become cigar god over there too LOLOLOL