College is making me tired...

**JFellows** · 10-17-2008, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Lopaka

(P.S. Microeconomics SUCKS!)

Fucking Amen! Isoquants and isocosts are currently blowing my mind.

Originally Posted by ggiese

Macro is even worse - and have fun in accounting...

I have Macro to look forward to next semester (hopefully my last semester). I didn't mind accounting though, and the Corporate Finance class I'm taking right now is a hell of a lot more enjoyable than Micro.

**Lopaka** · 10-17-2008, 05:10 PM

I'm taking Macro next...however, going to see if there is a CLEP or DANTES for it. Maybe get lucky!

Lopaka

**ggiese** · 10-17-2008, 08:21 PM

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**ggiese** · 10-17-2008, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by WOXOF

That right there is why I changed my major from EE.

Finite Math was made me not want to pursue a math major (DE was way than more than I wanted)...

Calc III was bad enough, but particle physics is what led me away from anything BUT mechanical engineering - first time in my life my eyes were in a constant glaze without the use of any kind of "medication"... I'll stay with Kinematics anytime!!!

**Cabaiguan Juan** · 10-20-2008, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by ggiese

What was your degree in?

My degree was in Civil Engineering. My wife has been slugging through her 2nd degree while working a demanding job so i think i have some insight to how college can run your ass ragged. Keep at it Kenyth, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

**Kenyth** · 10-27-2008, 12:41 PM

Well, ceramics and big honking cigar ash trays may not be in the cards for me. That class requires lab/shop time during restricted hours to do your homework. I don't think I'll subject my wife to yet another night alone every week. I think I'm stuck with classes that allow homework you can take home.

**here'sjohnny** · 10-27-2008, 05:38 PM

Kenyth, try checking out your course catalogue, and run a degree audit for yourself online (if your school has that, if not you can get them at your advisor's office), because i know sometime a fine arts credit will allow you to take an industrial art class to meet that requirement. I think it's usually like intro to AutoCADD or even or something along those line. That would be better than some stupid poetry class nonsense.

**Kenyth** · 10-28-2008, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by here'sjohnny

Kenyth, try checking out your course catalogue, and run a degree audit for yourself online (if your school has that, if not you can get them at your advisor's office), because i know sometime a fine arts credit will allow you to take an industrial art class to meet that requirement. I think it's usually like intro to AutoCADD or even or something along those line. That would be better than some stupid poetry class nonsense.

If I was a traditional student, I would have more options like this. Unfortunately, night classes have far fewer choices. The total available fine arts night courses are:

Introduction to Fine Arts
Perspective in Fine Arts
Ceramics
Music (This one seems to be offered less frequently)
Introduction to Drawing (Offered very rarely. Only heard of it, never seen it in the course catalog. I'd take it in an instant. I can draw a bit.)

**here'sjohnny** · 10-28-2008, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Kenyth

If I was a traditional student, I would have more options like this. Unfortunately, night classes have far fewer choices. The total available fine arts night courses are:

Introduction to Fine Arts
Perspective in Fine Arts
Ceramics
Music (This one seems to be offered less frequently)
Introduction to Drawing (Offered very rarely. Only heard of it, never seen it in the course catalog. I'd take it in an instant. I can draw a bit.)

Yeah that sux man, good luck though. Hopefully you can get into that music class, i took one my freshman year for my fine art credit and enjoyed it for the most part. hopefully you have to take the perspective in fine arts class, that one just doesn't sound like it could possibly be interesting. Keep at it though!

**Eville** · 10-28-2008, 08:01 AM

Jeeze, sounds like i've got it pretty easy. I have a 15 hour schedule right now, but i usually only spend about 9 hours in class during any given week, 3 of which are ROTC class hours that I'm required to attend. Then for homework, i'll spend roughly 1.5 hours per week. unless I have tests, in which case add an extra hour to study for that.

**Kenyth** · 10-30-2008, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Eville

Jeeze, sounds like i've got it pretty easy. I have a 15 hour schedule right now, but i usually only spend about 9 hours in class during any given week, 3 of which are ROTC class hours that I'm required to attend. Then for homework, i'll spend roughly 1.5 hours per week. unless I have tests, in which case add an extra hour to study for that.

1.5 hours?!

I can't even figure out how much homework I actually have in that long!

How about you do some of mine to even things out?

I got three hours of sleep last night because this week is apparently when everyone doubles the homework assignments. I had almost ten chapters to read from multiple books, six pages of typed journal pages, and a couple worksheets to type up. I have an eight page paper due in two weeks, plus what ever other insanity my theology class assigns in that time period. That still leaves me with my harshest taskmistress (my wife), who I think is getting frustrated with my general absence from family activities and projects.

**Kenyth** · 07-01-2009, 02:05 PM

Things are moving along nicely. I had a little break from heavy homework with a Fine Arts class. Lots of class work, but no tests and no homework except for two projects. One was easy because I had a great partner. The other was a bit of a bear because my randomly assigned "partner" disappeared until 9 PM the evening before the project was due. I did the whole thing, as I'm certain she expected. Granted, I expected I would be doing most of it after I first met her, but a little help of some sort would have been nice.
My wife is fast losing her patience. Since I'm getting straight A's, I think she's pushing my envelope a bit. My time for homework and study is getting tighter and tighter. I got my first A- in Managerial Finance. All A's up until that point. I think I'll live. One little thing to think about though. I didn't do the extra credit problem on the Finance project because I was too tired (It was 2AM). The problem was pretty easy, but only worth a couple of points. After calculating things out, doing that problem would have brought me up to an A.

A little lesson learned in life. Perserverance is the difference between good and excellent.

**mrtr33** · 07-01-2009, 02:10 PM

And group projects are much harder than they are ever worth. I got burned in every single group project I participated in sans one in grad school. Too much bullshit, and the prof never cares that any group member is a flake.

**cinda** · 07-01-2009, 04:20 PM

I did not go to college until I was in my late 20's. I got a part time job at the college in the computer lab. It was a way I could work on my homework and still get paid. It was the hardest thing I ever had to do but it clearly showed me what I am capable of doing. If I had to work a normal 40 hour a week job I really do not think I could of done as well as I did. I graduated with a 3.8 grade point average and I was hired to work at the place I last internship with for school. So all in all going back to college is certainly worth the struggles. Keep up the good work!

**alliaphagist** · 07-01-2009, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by mrtr33

And group projects are much harder than they are ever worth. I got burned in every single group project I participated in sans one in grad school. Too much bullshit, and the prof never cares that any group member is a flake.

the trick is being that flake

**Kenyth** · 07-03-2009, 11:29 AM

Group projects have a purpose in fostering/developing teamwork and leadership. They also make it easier for the prof. to grade the class. Even with a two person group, they now have half the grading to do. It also raises the average grades in the class. I think they are a good tool when used properly. Excessive use can lead to frustrated acheivers feeling like they are carrying under-achievers on their backs, and a general cheapening of the earned grade.

**ggiese** · 07-03-2009, 09:04 PM

When I was in engineering classes - EVERYTHING we did was a group project - homework, take home tests, projects, etc. It appeared to me to be a bunch of shell shocked rats clinging to a scrap of wood during a flood...

**Kenyth** · 09-23-2009, 12:13 PM

In the last full semester! Only 6 classes to go! Still straight A's! One of those classes will roll into the first half of next semester. Graduation in May!

**ashauler** · 09-23-2009, 01:01 PM

Right on brother!! Congrats on the straight A's.

**Kenyth** · 03-15-2010, 07:40 AM

Well, here I am in the last class (World Civ). I needed an elective and the choices were limited. I thought this would be interesting. Uggghhhh! Piles of homework! None of it is extrememly difficult, just tedious and time consuming. I'm typing 6-8 pages of mandatory notes this week over reading assignments and handouts, plus doing a presentation.

I think the biggest problem is that, being my last class, my motivation is a bit weak. I should graduate with a GPA of 3.92. Good enough work for a 40 year old student I guess. Gotta set the standard for the young punks you know!