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    There is no picking my friend, this all about learning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish79 View Post
    I completely agree that a properly complete pass should increase in value (not that I'm an expert, but from what I've gathered from reading this thread, in addition to others), "leave the pass better than you found it".

    I guess I was wondering what the "acceptable" range was for a "put" to be over a "take". I understand that they should be as close as possible, but in the case of Rich's first listing of takes/puts, you singled out the trades that were over a $1 difference, which seems like a good guideline to me.
    I was going to address this, might as well do it now. "Better than you found it" has, IMHO, almost NOTHING to do with value. It means things like:
    - making sure the box is structurally sound and hasn't suffered a lot. (Note the inside box has deliberately been expanded.)
    - keeping the pass to 65/65 as best you can
    - keeping an eagle eye out for brown dust or small holes in cello - at unpacking and at re-packing.
    - shipping using click'n'ship. You save, chances of successful delivery go up . Pass weighs under
    - communicating early and often when you have the pass
    - etc.

    Every pass has different themes. The theme of any pass is to try some new cigars and have some fun. For this pass, we have added learning, which is generally not fun .

    Quote Originally Posted by CAJUNBLAZE View Post
    That has been my philosophy on passes. I do understand trying to keep it in the same range, but it's not as easy as it looks. It will be a little easier knowing some of the agreed upon prices of the cigars being added to the pass.

    Rich
    I thought about putting initial prices, but passes generally don't do this. More learning for you!

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    ... For this pass, we have added learning, which is generally not fun .
    This pass is amazing and although it may be drab for those experienced in passes, I think everyone has done an amazing job being clear and asking questions or providing answers.
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    For your consideration.......

    Maduro Tray
    Take: Padron Churchill $4.27 Put: Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970 Robusto Grande $4.58
    Take: Cabaiguan Guapo RX $7.12 Put: La Aurora 1495 Churchill $7.67

    Triple Corta Tray
    Take: Punch Petit Punch $4.00 Put: El Titan de Bronze Sun Grown Redemption Lancero $4.20*

    Long Stick Tray
    Take: Gran Habano Corojo #5 Pyramid $3.56 Put: El Rico Habano Torpedo $3.98
    Take: Jose L. Piedra Cazadore $1.90 Put: Angel 100 1961 $2.00**

    Long Filler Tray
    Take: Rocky Patel Olde World Reserve Corojo Torpedo $9.33 Put: Graycliff Gran Cru Presidente $9.40*
    Take: Ramon Allones Specially Selected $6.22 Put: Arturo Fuente Sun Grown King B $6.68

    * What I paid for it. If necessary, I will divulge sources via PM. Should Host insist, I will make them public. Both transactions took place here at CS, amongst reputable members.
    ** This is the only reasonable price I've been able to find for these, and it's here. These cigars aren't being made any more and I can't find them on the cigarcyclopedia site anywhere. I am asking for this trade to be allowed, and that the set price for this cigar for the rest of this pass be set at $2.00.

    I humbly ask your permission, and invite discussion.
    Last edited by mrtr33; 06-01-2009 at 10:12 PM. Reason: Made it look pretty


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    mrtr33, are you ready?

    Pleas pm correct shipping info just to be on the safe side.

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    Nice smokes, thanks! Last price I have on the Angel 100 was 2.79, so 2.00 is reasonable.

    Cabaiguan and Punch - bungee cigars!

    Floor is open for discussion!
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    PM'd Rich my addy.

    I have a question. What is this click-and-ship you speak of? I am not familiar with this. Perhaps this answer can benefit others.

    Thanks again!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrtr33 View Post
    PM'd Rich my addy.

    I have a question. What is this click-and-ship you speak of? I am not familiar with this. Perhaps this answer can benefit others.

    Thanks again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrtr33 View Post
    Maduro Tray
    Take: Padron Churchill $4.27
    Put: Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970 Robusto Grande $4.58

    Take: Cabaiguan Guapo RX $7.12
    Put: La Aurora 1495 Churchill $7.67

    Triple Corta Tray
    Put: El Titan de Bronze Sun Grown Redemption Lancero $4.20*

    Long Stick Tray
    Put: El Rico Habano Torpedo $3.98


    Long Filler Tray
    Put: Arturo Fuente Sun Grown King B $6.68
    For the above Takes/Puts, my calculations came within $0.10 of the amounts that Mark has listed.

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    Mark, the pass is headed your way DC# 03006000000136262937.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAJUNBLAZE View Post
    Mark, the pass is headed your way DC# 03006000000136262937.

    Rich
    One-day turnaround! Awesome!

    The bar has been set high for the rest of you!

    Delays will happen, of course. That's cool, but please keep the pass informed.

    Regular and timely communications are key to a fun and successful box pass.

    It shouldn't take long for the pass to cross Louisiana, so I'll be checking Mrtr33's puts/takes shortly after I post this. I also have time right now, but won't have as much time tomorrow.

    Ashauler on deck!

    Hmm. Maybe we should have a sig for the pass ... keeping current sigs showing first, of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrtr33 View Post
    For your consideration.......

    Maduro Tray
    Take 2: Padron Churchill $4.27 Put 37: Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970 Robusto Grande $4.58
    Take 29: Cabaiguan Guapo RX $7.12 Put 38: La Aurora 1495 Churchill $7.67

    Triple Corta Tray
    Take 32: Punch Petit Punch $4.00 Put 39: El Titan de Bronze Sun Grown Redemption Lancero $4.20*

    Long Stick Tray
    Take 15: Gran Habano Corojo #5 Pyramid $3.56 Put 40: El Rico Habano Torpedo $3.98
    Take 20: Jose L. Piedra Cazadore $1.90 Put 41: Angel 100 1961 $2.00**

    Long Filler Tray
    Take 21: Rocky Patel Olde World Reserve Corojo Torpedo $9.33 Put 42: Graycliff Gran Cru Presidente $9.40*
    Take 27: Ramon Allones Specially Selected $6.22 Put 43: Arturo Fuente Sun Grown King B $6.68

    * What I paid for it. If necessary, I will divulge sources via PM. Should Host insist, I will make them public. Both transactions took place here at CS, amongst reputable members.
    ** This is the only reasonable price I've been able to find for these, and it's here. These cigars aren't being made any more and I can't find them on the cigarcyclopedia site anywhere. I am asking for this trade to be allowed, and that the set price for this cigar for the rest of this pass be set at $2.00.

    I humbly ask your permission, and invite discussion.
    I added P/T numbers .

    Checking in progress, this post will be edited. Asterisk'd values accepted.

    edit: all approved .

    Math was pretty much dead-on except for the RASS. I had ten prices for RASS:
    $ 140.00 $ 189.95 $ 146.50 $ 166.00 $ 189.00 $ 160.00 $ 147.60 $ 174.20 $ 141.75 $ 151.42
    Sum = 1606.42; Stick = 6.4258 ~= $6.43
    Typo? King B is still good in any case.

    I've smoked a couple RASS from the same box recently, and have sentenced them (and most Partagas and Bolivar) to three to five years from box date. The OWR is perfect now IMHO, and I'd smoke the #5 sooner than later.

    Please feel free to change your puts/takes once you've had a chance to look over the sticks. That's what makes a pass a pass - otherwise we could do this all virtually .

    Ashauler: Thanks .
    Last edited by craig; 06-02-2009 at 10:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craig View Post
    edit: all approved .

    Math was pretty much dead-on except for the RASS. I had ten prices for RASS:
    $ 140.00 $ 189.95 $ 146.50 $ 166.00 $ 189.00 $ 160.00 $ 147.60 $ 174.20 $ 141.75 $ 151.42
    Sum = 1606.42; Stick = 6.4258 ~= $6.43
    Typo? King B is still good in any case.
    Sorry about the math. I don't know what it is, but I did the math for that RASS 5 or 6 times and came up with something different each time. On cigarcyclopedia, one of the amounts that was supposed to be US currency is listed in Euros, throwing me for a loop.

    Thanks for the tips about smoking times. I'm a patient man......

    The trip through LA shouldn't take too long (remember the last time, Rich?). I'll keep close tabs on the DC#, and have a flexible enough schedule to run home. The PO is just down the street from work. I'll try to be quick.


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    Here's my analysis:

    (Rich's changes):
    Take 1 ~ Worth:$6.06 Put 29 ~ Worth: $7.12
    Take 3 ~ Worth:$5.87 Put 30 ~ Worth: $6.24

    (Mark's puts / takes):
    Take 2 ~ Worth:$4.27 Put 37 ~ Worth: $4.58
    Take 29 ~ Worth:$7.12 Put 38 ~ Worth: $7.72
    Take 32 ~ Worth:$4.38 Put 39 ~ Worth: $5.20
    Take 15 ~ Worth:$3.43 Put 40 ~ Worth: $3.98
    Take 20 ~ Worth:$2.00 Put 41 ~ Worth: $NFC (No Clue)
    Take 21 ~ Worth:$8.14 Put 42 ~ Worth: $14.28
    Take 27 ~ Worth:$6.43 Put 43 ~ Worth: $6.68

    Seems I may have something f'd up with Take 21. I only found one source on google, and it had a box at $357.00, but I see Mark found a much, much better deal

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