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    Quote Originally Posted by Oleg281
    England runs democratic colonization policy,
    do you hear this for the first time?

    Attack to London by Iraqi insurgents is possibly
    connected with their strategy of anticolonial war.
    Their calculation is connected with discredit of policy of
    London in Iraq and disengagement of English armies.
    For US government leaving of England from Iraq
    would be disintegration of a coalition and individual
    opposition to the world community.
    England is part of the UK if taking in Ireland, Wales and Scotland, or Britain if taking in England, Wales and Scotland. It is not the english army but is known as the British army but there are Irish regiments within it. I don't think anyone in Britain thinks of themselves as a colonial empire builder anymore, unless you know of some country were they're serving tea and crumpets at this moment with a gun in their faces. If you are saying that the bomb blasts in London is there response to the UKs involvement in stopping terroism remember that events like these have always taken place and that Muslims are also missing in the bomb blasts. These terroists have killed without discretion and what happened in the US with the two towers happened before the coalition went into Iraq. Unforunately it is a vicious circle, like Northern Ireland, like Palastien etc etc.

    I watched a film last night called Red Dust, about the South African reconciliation trials, were if the torturers etc admitted to their crimes they would not be tried in a court for them. Some may say they want vengence, but the idea was to try and unify the country, to go forward, to end a circle of ever widening hate and violence, to put the past to rest. After WWII the Allies made an effort with the Berlin airlifts etc to help, to show friendship, to show there was a better way of life, unlike the first world war were we left them to starve and left them humiliated and waiting for someone like Hitler to come forth. I don't think the new breed of terroists though will listen to anyone elses opinion, they are living by an ideology that has led them into a fully indoctinated world of death, that would be hard to break.

    Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried.
    -Winston Churchill

    All that we should be saying on this matter is that our thoughts are with those that have been killed and no political gains should be made from peoples suffering.

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    64 years ago governments of the Europe convinced people
    that barbarians live in Russia , now Asia.
    What in your opinion destruction of Iraq is justified by?

    War in Iraq goes against presence of colonial armies.
    If London refuse democratic colonization of Iraq
    and accelerate disengage of armies, political positions of armed
    democratls which are supported by London and Ankara will
    weaken in Russia.

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    I take it your a young sociology or political student that uses one persons work www.genevo.org/p2i.htm which is almost a Nostrodamus type piece of work to find patterns in life. So if you read the Bible Code you would be quoting that this week, and next week if you read Noddy, I take it Big Ears will say Eat The Rich. If life was so simple.

    I hate all acts of violence but the posts you are leaving are condoning violence, giving reason for their actions. The website you quote is bizarre to say the least, 128 year cycles, this is the work of fancy and hit and miss history which students in the 2nd grade would not take seriously.

    There are lots of people in the West who totally condemn war in Iraq and anywhere else in the world and then their are people who condone it. That is a persons right in a democracy. Your posts are just copy and paste jobs off an interesting though flawed look at history. Do you have any words of your own to add or do you just speak in other peoples words? I hope all wars are stopped and useless killings but that happens through dialogue and not by people following strict doctrines etc. Again I say people died in the London bomb blasts, do not make this in anyway political, these were just ordinary people of many faiths and cultures who were killed violently. Post a message of sympathy rather than a post on historys horrors.

    I do not know if you even smoke cigars as all your posts are just politically provocative and are not judged at all or given context. If you will not post your views on the life and death of your fellow man, i will not continue to provide more posts for your ludicrous outpourings.

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    Bravo to Johnny!, schooling old Oleg and not even breaking a sweat!.

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    Just ignore this asshole. He's clearly not here to talk about cigars.
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    About what international sympathy London asks?
    London tries to present attack of insurgents
    as world tragedy. Fifty person was lost, whereas
    democrats divided people in Iraq and tens person daily perish. The world tragedy is played by democratic colonialists in Asia.

    1938-1945, London kindled war against new Russian type of the device of the state, as a result 60 mln.people was lost.

    2002-??, London has kindled war against developing Asian type of the device of the state.

    How many should be lost, your opinion?

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    Put Oleg on ignore - he'll go away....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFG75
    Interesting Oleg-are you a Coast to Coast viewer?
    That show is lame....they got a some of the most inexperienced host/journalists do run a show. I think Reagan was an awesome president and his son seems like a pretty cool guy but I don't think he's much of a journalist. They just state the obvious....I hate shows like that.

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    To stabilize a situation in Iraq and region it is possible having revived
    the Iraq national state. An example in development of the state -
    achievements of Iran and other Asian countries.
    I offer some of measures below:

    1. An immediate deducing of armies of the USA and coalitions.
    2. Creation of uniform national army.
    3. Deportation of the democratic government.
    4. Giving authority to leaders of Iraq.
    5. The organization of elections of authorities.
    6. Payment in current 5 years for destruction of the state by the countries-invaders.
    7. S.Husejn's rehabilitation and clearing militarian captives.
    8. Nationalization of natural riches for the term of not less than 3 years.
    9. Amnesty to participants of the armed pro-American formations.

    The USA and coalition can do nothing about it and then
    after a while new war begin.

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    Hey I've just worked out what your problem is! You're on the WRONG forum!!! This is "Cigarsmokers.com" NOT "Iloveweed.com"

    "War in Iraq goes against presence of colonial armies.
    If London refuse democratic colonization of Iraq
    and accelerate disengage of armies, political positions of armed
    democratls which are supported by London and Ankara will
    weaken in Russia."

    WHAT?!?!?!? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN???? Regardless of the fact that your grammar is virtually non-existent, this simply doesn't make any sense!

    "War in Iraq goes against presence of colonial armies.
    Please explain (in decent english). I can't even say whether I agree or disagree with you but I simply don't understand what you are trying to say or the point you're trying to make.

    As for this gem....

    "To stabilize a situation in Iraq and region it is possible having revived
    the Iraq national state. An example in development of the state -
    achievements of Iran and other Asian countries. (Oh yes, Iran is a GREAT example which should be followed!)

    I offer some of measures below:

    1. An immediate deducing of armies of the USA and coalitions. ("Deducing" ????)
    2. Creation of uniform national army. (Well, err...yeah.)
    3. Deportation of the democratic government. ( What? To achieve democracy? )
    4. Giving authority to leaders of Iraq. (See point 2)
    5. The organization of elections of authorities. (See point 2)
    6. Payment in current 5 years for destruction of the state by the countries-invaders. ( Congratulations! You're officially nuts!)
    7. S.Husejn's rehabilitation and clearing militarian captives. (see point 6)
    8. Nationalization of natural riches for the term of not less than 3 years. (Ok.)
    9. Amnesty to participants of the armed pro-American formations. " (What? Like they are in danger right now?

    I'm off to the pub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oleg281
    To stabilize a situation in Iraq and region it is possible having revived
    the Iraq national state. An example in development of the state -
    achievements of Iran and other Asian countries.
    I offer some of measures below:

    1. An immediate deducing of armies of the USA and coalitions.
    2. Creation of uniform national army.
    3. Deportation of the democratic government.
    4. Giving authority to leaders of Iraq.
    5. The organization of elections of authorities.
    6. Payment in current 5 years for destruction of the state by the countries-invaders.
    7. S.Husejn's rehabilitation and clearing militarian captives.
    8. Nationalization of natural riches for the term of not less than 3 years.
    9. Amnesty to participants of the armed pro-American formations.

    The USA and coalition can do nothing about it and then
    after a while new war begin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SFG75

    Hey - stealing my material is a copyright infringement - I used that one on you, Alfred...

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    Hatred is connected with democratic colonization,
    this is a cheap moral substantiation which
    colonizers are covered by.


    Despite attack in London the government of England refuses
    to tell the truth about Iraq and garbles the facts.
    Without democracy the English government became profascist
    and conducts a society to demoralization. Truth is hided from the people,
    it is done to keep colonial financial streams.

    Why should other people suffer from the colonial government of England?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oleg281
    Hatred is connected with democratic colonization,
    this is a cheap moral substantiation which
    colonizers are covered by.


    Despite attack in London the government of England refuses
    to tell the truth about Iraq and garbles the facts.
    Without democracy the English government became profascist
    and conducts a society to demoralization. Truth is hided from the people,
    it is done to keep colonial financial streams.

    Why should other people suffer from the colonial government of England?
    wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake
    wow

    Yeah, I hear ya. I think he's missed his meds or something.

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    Personally I think everyone should just not post anymore in this thread. It's perfectly clear this guy is NOT here to talk about cigars and that he is completely out of his mind.

    I promise I will not make any additional posts in this thread.
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    Ok.

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    You think how the Europe before 1938 - communism bad,
    fascism - good. The campaign on the East - will rescue the Western society.

    In Asia there is their own society. Terrorists are situated where invaders are. If to invade one more country terrorism will grow.

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    Attack to London in a threshold of the summit of the G8,
    has broken a new wave of democratic colonization,
    has strengthened anticolonial resistance
    and became significant event in struggle
    with the international nazism and profascism.

    The reason of terrorism in London.
    Democracy in England is constructed on the basis of totalitarian
    control over the person. Therefore the society supports
    state policy and is out of internal political problems. Such society is used
    by the government for promotion of colonization and development of Mother country.
    It is not possible to defend antifascist and anticolonial opinions
    in such system.

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