RyJ Cedros de Luxe No. 2

[RamyG4]

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[mail man]

Yeehaw...keep going man, you are warming things up nicely, at this rate, you should be eating your own ass by about 5pm.

[RamyG4]

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[Eville]

I'm here to exchange cigars.

This is where you stepped on your dick.

CC valued in the 20-25 range.

20-25 dollars for a cubic centimeter?

[mail man]

This is where you stepped on your dick.



20-25 dollars for a cubic centimeter?

I thought he was looking for a $25 shot.

[ashauler]

First of all, I was already made clear of the mistakes I made by badwhale, and I edited my post accordingly. I mentioned my ebay rating, and in hindsight it was dumb. I'm new here, so I figured I would try and offer up something as to my legitimacy. I was already made aware that it was stupid, so I edited it. I don't know why you felt the need to rehash.

Let's see, you edited your first post, so the posts following it don't make as much sense as they would have. I pointed that out. And, I like hash, especially corned beef.

Secondly, yes, I was trying to sell them, OR trade them. I'm not interested in making a quick buck, I'm interested in trying different cigars, be that by a direct trade or sale & purchase. Any money I get for these I would spend at a cigar store.

What is the value then? You trading for specific cigars, a blinder of equivalent value....what exactly? Best offer things (auctions) don't happen here.

Thirdly, you know nothing about who bought me the cigars, why he or she bought me the cigars, whether or not he or she is ok with me pursuing trade/sale of these cigars, etc. I'm an occasional smoker. I like to smoke a cigar once every two weeks on average. Based on that I would much rather have several different cigars than 25 of the same cigar.

Exactly right, I know nothing about you. The occasional smoker thing makes sense.

I made a few mistakes, I was made aware of them, and I fixed them. I'd like to move on and pursue trading, hopefully others can do the same.

Again, what are you valuing the cigars at, and what do you want in return?

[RamyG4]

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[ashauler]

Thank you, that was much more helpful. These were 8 dollars a cigar, so that's what I'm valuing them at.

What do I want in return? Blinders of equivalent value as you suggested would be perfect. I'd love to trade 3-for-1 for a CC valued in the 20-25 range.

How do you arrive at $8/stick value on these? CC or NC?

[RamyG4]

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[ashauler]

CC. The box of 25 was $200.

Interesting. I get about $6.75 averaged across 3 vendors for these smokes, done quickly.

It's really moot anyway, CC's are illegal in the U.S.

[RamyG4]

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[mrtr33]

CC. The box of 25 was $200.

So to be clear on your intentions and for those of us playing at home, based on what you've told us so far, your looking for a 3 for 1 trade on CC's? And you have how many posts here? So you want one of us to give a complete stranger 5 CCs on the off chance that:

1) Your smokes are even real
2) YOU are even real
3) All of us lived in a country where CC's were legal, or easy to find

[BigMacFU]

Ramy, I wanted to have hope you'd look to do the right thing here as you were willing to send your end first, but: cuban cigars are illegal in the US, you can't ask for 3-1 offers (bad etiquette unless you're the one offering the 1 looking for 3 lesser value in return; should just ask for cash and then go about buying 25/stick cigars on own), the price seems to be too high, and we have little to no verification if the cigars are fake.

Think about it: let's say you send the cigars first, your perceived value of said cigars is somewhere between 150-200. I get the cigars and verify that the cigars are fake. I have no interest in sending you the money anymore, but now I've got to send back the cigars? What a pain in my butt, are you including a return shipping label incase things go bad?

IOW, if these were legal cigars, say some Rocky Patels, and you were offering the fair price and your end first and only looking for cash or a straight up value-value trade this probably would have gone fine. But this isn't what you're offering.

[MemphisFred]

Was considering maybe doing something until you posted that price. At that price that's not going to be a US version, as they're in the 3.00-3.50 range. So reasoning tells me that's a ISOM (as in illegal here) which means you're probably not in the US either...so I'll pass...not dealing with shipping of those in or mine out of the States.

Oh btw, referencing cigarencyclopedia, that price you listed is the highest range (Convienent for you) whereas 5.50 is the low .

[RamyG4]

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[RamyG4]

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[ashauler]

I am in the US (NJ). Again, I was just going by how much was paid for the box. If the value is 6.75 then that's what I'll go by, and will exchange for cigars in that range. Anywhere from 5-8 is fine with me really.

Ramy,
You are here to exchange cigars, you said so yourself as pointed out by Eville. That makes you very different from the long-time and established members of this forum. Trading / selling / buying are just side benefits of the community, not a primary reason to be here. There are boards specifically for that kinda activity, google can help you out with that.

I reiterate my advice that you withdraw your offer. By that I mean just post that the sticks aren't available for trade/purchase any longer. Do what you want, but it won't get any better from here should you choose to keep trying to push this through, trust me.

[RamyG4]

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[Mangyrat]

RamyG4 your stuck in that defensive mode trying to justify your actions/posts.

Just stop and take a breather.
I would personally just withdraw the offer and move on.

This type of thread never ends well.