I feel so old and SO naive

[CoventryCat86]

What are you talking about? You said he's imagining the costs he described. I simply pointed out the costs of owning a car aren't imagined.

What I'm "talking about" is exactly what I said:

When he said they were "super expensive" that's "imagined" because it is.

When he claims that car ownership is "super expensive, even if the car is paid off" I'm calling that "imagined" because even he now admits this as he backpedaled and stated this

super expensive is debatable

I'm not saying there is no cost associated with car ownership but calling it "super expensive" is fuggen BULLSHIT and that's not debatable.

[CoventryCat86]

Two members of the Corvallis city council are members of the Green Party.[

Hell, even in ultra-liberal Connecticut, we're not that far off the deep end. I live one town over from the "Corvallis" of Connecticut otherwise known as "Storrs" the section of the town of Mansfield where UCONN is located. Mansfield is the most ultra left wing town in the entire eastern half of Connecticut and there aren't any Green Party people on the Town Council there. Storrs' population is only about 1/3 of Corvallis so even the libs can't get away without owning cars.

I guess the average Corvallis mind-set is simply one I just can't relate to........

[JiveTurkey]

I guess the average Corvallis mind-set is simply one I just can't relate to........

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

I'm sure I can't relate to lots of folks on certain things on this or any other board. I stick around because there's at least one thing I CAN relate to: enjoying cigars.

[CoventryCat86]

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

Well maybe but consider this:

"Mr. CoventryCat why do you live in the country?"

Real answer: "Because I like the peace and quiet and I have a sentimental attachment to the property that's been in my family for generations!"

Fake, right-wing, tea party, Montana Freemen inspired political answer: "Because I have to freedom to do what I want, when I want free from most government intervention, bureaucracy, red tape, bloated budgets and mismanagement that are typical of poorly run urban areas where they rob from the rich, give to the poor and to hell with us red-blooded American taxpayers. Cities allow the leaches, drug abusers and alcoholics to game the system and get a free ride on the honest people's backs. Cities are CORRUPT I say, CORRUPT and criminal enterprises with graft, payoffs for political cronies and hacks! And you know, living is cities is super expensive even if you own your own place!"

Since I've never lived in a city, I'm full-o-crap with that whole stinking pile of garbage because it's only based on a wrong perception and of how I want others to view living in cities, not on any real facts or anything like that.

Ya see where I'm going with this?

[kevin7]

Its still fucking cool Turkey.

[ggiese]

I wish my car only cost me $1,300 per year...

[ashauler]

I wish my car only cost me $1,300 per year...

Me too. I guess I'm just not doing it correctly.

[JiveTurkey]

Well maybe but consider this:

"Mr. CoventryCat why do you live in the country?"

Real answer: "Because I like the peace and quiet and I have a sentimental attachment to the property that's been in my family for generations!"

Fake, right-wing, tea party, Montana Freemen inspired political answer: "Because I have to freedom to do what I want, when I want free from most government intervention, bureaucracy, red tape, bloated budgets and mismanagement that are typical of poorly run urban areas where they rob from the rich, give to the poor and to hell with us red-blooded American taxpayers. Cities allow the leaches, drug abusers and alcoholics to game the system and get a free ride on the honest people's backs. Cities are CORRUPT I say, CORRUPT and criminal enterprises with graft, payoffs for political cronies and hacks! And you know, living is cities is super expensive even if you own your own place!"

Since I've never lived in a city, I'm full-o-crap with that whole stinking pile of garbage because it's only based on a wrong perception and of how I want others to view living in cities, not on any real facts or anything like that.

Ya see where I'm going with this?

I agree with you. And you've still got an argument back?

[JiveTurkey]

Yes, we have different mindsets, which come from a variety of sources. You value your car, I don't value them. We make decisions that espouse those values. You choose the way you live your life, and I choose the way I want to live mine. I'm not trying to tell you how to live here, just letting folks know how I live mine.

[CoventryCat86]

Yes, we have different mindsets, which come from a variety of sources. You value your car, I don't value them. We make decisions that espouse those values. You choose the way you live your life, and I choose the way I want to live mine. I'm not trying to tell you how to live here, just letting folks know how I live mine.

It's not a matter of different mindsets or whether or not you and I "value" cars or not. In my case and in the case of just about everyone else in North America, a car is a necessity. You're lucky you live in a large college town where you can easily get by without one, the other 99.999% of us aren't so lucky. And I agree with the others, that's a cool situation you're in where you can live easily and happily without owning a car, I say great for you!

My point is that your statement that cars are "super expensive, even if the car is paid off" is kind of ridiculous. That's not a matter of you "just letting folks know how I live mine" it's a matter of you making a pretty stupid statement. And then you said this: "but it is more expensive to own a car than not" like it's a fact which it definitely is not, that's your opinion. Outside of your college town utopia where cars are almost not necessary, many arguments can be successfully made that NOT owning a car is more expensive than owning one because the alternatives are many times more expensive.