I feel so old and SO naive

[heftysmokes]

What are you talking about? You said he's imagining the costs he described. I simply pointed out the costs of owning a car aren't imagined.

[CoventryCat86]

What are you talking about? You said he's imagining the costs he described. I simply pointed out the costs of owning a car aren't imagined.

What I'm "talking about" is exactly what I said:

When he said they were "super expensive" that's "imagined" because it is.

When he claims that car ownership is "super expensive, even if the car is paid off" I'm calling that "imagined" because even he now admits this as he backpedaled and stated this

super expensive is debatable

I'm not saying there is no cost associated with car ownership but calling it "super expensive" is fuggen BULLSHIT and that's not debatable.

[CoventryCat86]

Two members of the Corvallis city council are members of the Green Party.[

Hell, even in ultra-liberal Connecticut, we're not that far off the deep end. I live one town over from the "Corvallis" of Connecticut otherwise known as "Storrs" the section of the town of Mansfield where UCONN is located. Mansfield is the most ultra left wing town in the entire eastern half of Connecticut and there aren't any Green Party people on the Town Council there. Storrs' population is only about 1/3 of Corvallis so even the libs can't get away without owning cars.

I guess the average Corvallis mind-set is simply one I just can't relate to........

[JiveTurkey]

I guess the average Corvallis mind-set is simply one I just can't relate to........

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

I'm sure I can't relate to lots of folks on certain things on this or any other board. I stick around because there's at least one thing I CAN relate to: enjoying cigars.

[CoventryCat86]

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

Well maybe but consider this:

"Mr. CoventryCat why do you live in the country?"

Real answer: "Because I like the peace and quiet and I have a sentimental attachment to the property that's been in my family for generations!"

Fake, right-wing, tea party, Montana Freemen inspired political answer: "Because I have to freedom to do what I want, when I want free from most government intervention, bureaucracy, red tape, bloated budgets and mismanagement that are typical of poorly run urban areas where they rob from the rich, give to the poor and to hell with us red-blooded American taxpayers. Cities allow the leaches, drug abusers and alcoholics to game the system and get a free ride on the honest people's backs. Cities are CORRUPT I say, CORRUPT and criminal enterprises with graft, payoffs for political cronies and hacks! And you know, living is cities is super expensive even if you own your own place!"

Since I've never lived in a city, I'm full-o-crap with that whole stinking pile of garbage because it's only based on a wrong perception and of how I want others to view living in cities, not on any real facts or anything like that.

Ya see where I'm going with this?

[kevin7]

Its still fucking cool Turkey.

[ggiese]

I wish my car only cost me $1,300 per year...

[JiveTurkey]

Well maybe but consider this:

"Mr. CoventryCat why do you live in the country?"

Real answer: "Because I like the peace and quiet and I have a sentimental attachment to the property that's been in my family for generations!"

Fake, right-wing, tea party, Montana Freemen inspired political answer: "Because I have to freedom to do what I want, when I want free from most government intervention, bureaucracy, red tape, bloated budgets and mismanagement that are typical of poorly run urban areas where they rob from the rich, give to the poor and to hell with us red-blooded American taxpayers. Cities allow the leaches, drug abusers and alcoholics to game the system and get a free ride on the honest people's backs. Cities are CORRUPT I say, CORRUPT and criminal enterprises with graft, payoffs for political cronies and hacks! And you know, living is cities is super expensive even if you own your own place!"

Since I've never lived in a city, I'm full-o-crap with that whole stinking pile of garbage because it's only based on a wrong perception and of how I want others to view living in cities, not on any real facts or anything like that.

Ya see where I'm going with this?

I agree with you. And you've still got an argument back?

[JiveTurkey]

Yes, we have different mindsets, which come from a variety of sources. You value your car, I don't value them. We make decisions that espouse those values. You choose the way you live your life, and I choose the way I want to live mine. I'm not trying to tell you how to live here, just letting folks know how I live mine.

[badwhale]

My friend's wife has lived in Wilmington & Philadelphia for all her life, and about (I'm going to guess here) hasn't owned a car in about 10 years.

Granted, he has a Jeep for stuff, and they've used the "share a car" thing that people do around the city, but it never blew my mind that someone can operate in a city without a vehicle.

Right, a high percentage of Americans need to have a car to survive and a smaller percentage actually maintain their own vehicles. Wrong, that the main reason Jive doesn't have one is to go "green." The first "pro" to not owning a car to me would be savings on wearable parts, the TIME it takes to work on shit (believe me, unless you have a dedicated shop with a nice rollback of tools and a lift, everything is a PITA), the savings on insurance, the savings on gas, storage etc.

I too usually buy used and do as much maintenance to keep the $/mile down but even recently I've had work done at the shop to save time and aggravation.

Bottom line, if I lived in a city, I would probably shitcan the vehicle if I could, and the first thing I'd do is spend that extra $$ on cigars.

Will

[badwhale]

Weren't we talking about meth lighters & paraphernalia?

[heftysmokes]

Weren't we talking about meth lighters & paraphernalia?

Ha!



Sorry for going off on a tangent.