Fake Esplendidos?

**Hugh Jorgan** · 07-18-2005, 05:19 PM

How did you acquire these cigars?
How much did you pay for this box?
Do you have a photo of the boxcode?

**nhcigarfan** · 07-18-2005, 05:22 PM

Did you get these from that guys "cousin"?

**CoventryCat86** · 07-18-2005, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by nhcigarfan

Did you get these from that guys "cousin"?

**MMAB** · 07-18-2005, 05:56 PM

but you're right.

The lid label looks like crap. BIG TIME!

Again, sorry

**Scooter** · 07-19-2005, 03:49 AM

I haven't bought them yet!

The guy who is selling them is sincere I think. He has offerred to break the seal and take these extra photos. I think he thinks they are real (but he is offerring them at £200).

Maybe they are, but I'll give them a miss just to be on the safe side.

**Scooter** · 07-19-2005, 03:57 AM

By the way, this is the picture of the box seal (blurry of course).

He has 2 boxes with the numbers EP006002 and EP006110.

They were bought in Cuba, but don't know from where.

http://www.piczs.com/is.php?i=1405&img=cigars.jpg

Iced T · 07-19-2005, 04:23 AM

Ok, I don't know much about this subject, but according to CA:

"Cohiba is the most commonly counterfeited Cuban cigar. The white markings are tiny squares, not circles. There should be four rows of squares, with just two above the word "Cohiba." The "La Habana, Cuba" script is grand and elongated. The Cubans added the script in the early '90s."

The markings looked like circles, but it could just be blurry. The label also just said "Habana, Cuba," not "La Habana, Cuba."

Again, I'm no authority, but this is just what I saw on CA...

I just saw a Cohiba box label that is really neat and clean. The gold face is all within a tight border and there is the Habanos leaf logo on the left...

**Hugh Jorgan** · 07-19-2005, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Scooter

I haven't bought them yet!

The guy who is selling them is sincere I think. He has offerred to break the seal and take these extra photos. I think he thinks they are real (but he is offerring them at £200).

Maybe they are, but I'll give them a miss just to be on the safe side.

As CoventryCat said, these are the most counterfeited cigars in the world.

Authentic bands, labels, boxes and hologram warranty seals are readily available. Looking at these are a good first step in trying to authenticate cigars, but it is not means to an end.

This guy is willing to sell you them at less than 50% of their going rate.

If it sounds to good to be true, it is. Avoid this deal!

**Scooter** · 07-19-2005, 09:12 AM

OK, so does that make this site WAY too good to be true.....?

http://www.solocigars.com/

**Chè** · 07-19-2005, 09:36 AM

I'd put my money on the box being BOGUS! Based on the picture, but I won't say why publicly as I hate to give counterfeiters clues on what might be wrong (especially when it is not that hard to correct) and may make it easier to defraud future unsuspecting customers.

The one advantage that we have is most of the bogus peddlers out there are NOTORIOUSLY sloppy and their work is obviously hastily done with little concern.

Incidentally, what is the factory code / date on the bottom of the box?

TonyDogs · 07-19-2005, 11:03 AM

I would say they are fake.
Here is a site that fake is there biz http://www.justfakes.com/
You can get labels, seals, and everything else.
I would hope none of you guys take advantage with this site

TonyDogs