What you guys look for in a cigar shoppe?

[badwhale]

(this thread has really shaped up)

Can't forget horseshoe pits...

[buzz]

I'm feeling generous dudeguy, so I'll put together a preliminary floor plan drawing this weekend for you and post it here. I'm no architect, but any monkey can design buildings nowadays with these new fangled CAD programs.

[badwhale]

I'm feeling generous dudeguy, so I'll put together a preliminary floor plan drawing this weekend for you and post it here. I'm no architect, but any monkey can design buildings nowadays with these new fangled CAD programs.

Oooo nice.

Can you do one of thos open air gigs, with the wooden trusses & exposed connection plates, like at a fancy ski lodge, or something?

[buzz]

Oooo nice.

Can you do one of thos open air gigs, with the wooden trusses & exposed connection plates, like at a fancy ski lodge, or something?

Of course, now are you able to do the site plan?

Any electrical engineers here able to pitch in to do the lighting/power plans? I don't work well with electricity... I had a bad experience.

[badwhale]

Of course, now are you able to do the site plan?

Any electrical engineers here able to pitch in to do the lighting/power plans? I don't work well with electricity... I had a bad experience.

Yeah, I can forward that to our Land Devlopment dept. I don't personally do that stuff.

I'll take a stab at the EE. Why not?

[badwhale]

I'm sure I'm not the only one who would utilize this at a cigar shop (and I'm really going to pat myself on the back for this out-of-box thinking)

Child care center / Kids play room / area.

Think about it. How perfect!

[buzz]

I'm sure I'm not the only one who would utilize this at a cigar shop (and I'm really going to pat myself on the back for this out-of-box thinking)

Child care center / Kids play room / area.

Think about it. How perfect!

I'll add it to the floorplan... what do the kids need? 100 sq. ft. and some legos?

Anyone able to do a landscape plan?

Also, we'll need a structural engineer involved for my insane rock climbing wall in the middle of the water park...

[CptnBlues63]

Of course, now are you able to do the site plan?

Any electrical engineers here able to pitch in to do the lighting/power plans? I don't work well with electricity... I had a bad experience.

I'm actually an apprentice Sheetmetal worker so I could help with the HVAC. I haven't done any since 1990 though so I'm pretty rusty, but I can bang duct together and hang it like nobody's business. Just don't ask me to do an onsite ogee offset is all.

Also, considering I've spent the last 15+ years in IT with the last 7 specializing in networking I could do all the network cabling for the entire building. I'd suggest 10 Gig fiber optic backbone with Cat 7 cabling to the outlets from the patch panels.

Don't forget on the blue prints to add a data center. It should be big enough for at least 10 APC server racks (I was thinking 5 but one should always double their expectations to allow for growth). Don't forget the integral, redundant UPS's (2 x 100 KvA ought to do) and separate A/C units in the data center. Oh, and you'll need a backup generator as well. A bloody big one as it'll have to run all the power for the whole building. Might be better to have a separate gennie for the data center but that would be up to the electrical engineer.

What about a Casino? Nobody's mentioned that and I'd love to be able to sit and smoke a cigar while playing Texas Hold'em.

Where are the shuffleboard courts / darts / pool tables? Racquetball / squash? No sauna's, hot tubs, or even a lap pool? Oh yeah, where is the walk-in humidor?

I can pitch into the landscape design.....I'm thinking a tobacco patch would look wonderful.

Oh yeah, gotta have some hot tubs and a sauna! Good thinking Jamie. I like the idea of a tobacco patch too. Wouldn't there be a need for some storage rooms for the tobacco so it can age? Maybe we should be thinking about hiring a couple cigar rollers too. I volunteer for quality control!

Has anybody mentioned a golf course or maybe just a driving range???

Oh you know what would be REALLY cool..........if we put it all together on a cruise ship!

[Paddy]

I'm actually an apprentice Sheetmetal worker so I could help with the HVAC. I haven't done any since 1990 though so I'm pretty rusty, but I can bang duct together and hang it like nobody's business. Just don't ask me to do an onsite ogee offset is all.

Also, considering I've spent the last 15+ years in IT with the last 7 specializing in networking I could do all the network cabling for the entire building. I'd suggest 10 Gig fiber optic backbone with Cat 7 cabling to the outlets from the patch panels.

Don't forget on the blue prints to add a data center. It should be big enough for at least 10 APC server racks (I was thinking 5 but one should always double their expectations to allow for growth). Don't forget the integral, redundant UPS's (2 x 100 KvA ought to do) and separate A/C units in the data center. Oh, and you'll need a backup generator as well. A bloody big one as it'll have to run all the power for the whole building. Might be better to have a separate gennie for the data center but that would be up to the electrical engineer.

What about a Casino? Nobody's mentioned that and I'd love to be able to sit and smoke a cigar while playing Texas Hold'em.




Oh yeah, gotta have some hot tubs and a sauna! Good thinking Jamie. I like the idea of a tobacco patch too. Wouldn't there be a need for some storage rooms for the tobacco so it can age? Maybe we should be thinking about hiring a couple cigar rollers too. I volunteer for quality control!

Has anybody mentioned a golf course or maybe just a driving range???

Oh you know what would be REALLY cool..........if we put it all together on a cruise ship!

Ahhh...A Tin-Knocker. Are you Union?

[CptnBlues63]

Ahhh...A Tin-Knocker. Are you Union?

LOL

I'm chuckling cause where I'm from we called them a "tin-basher" Same thing, only different right.

I started out non-union but after a couple years I got into the union. The reason I got into the union was, after almost 3 years of working in the trade I couldn't get to school. The non-union companies told you, "Oh you can go to school alright, but you won't have a job here in 8 weeks when school is done." Plus, they could delay your EI (employment insurance) benefits by just not turning in the lay-off forms for a month or so. For guys like me at that time, it meant not paying rent or eating for a couple weeks so you stayed at work and shut up.

It was sh*tty behaviour on their parts, but in Saskatchewan in the 80's there wasn't a lot of work and they had us by the short hairs. My bad luck was never having a job end when the next round of school started. I finally joined the union and got sent immediately to school on my 1st union job because I had the requisite number of hours for 2nd year as well as 1st.

All told, I have 4 years worth of time in the trade (10,000 hours required for journeyman status) but only ever got to school the one time so technically I am a "2nd year apprentice" but was working at a 4+ level on the job because of experience, smarts, and having worked with several journeymen who knew their stuff and believed it was their job to teach us on the job.

Do you have some experience in working with tin yourself Paddy?