RealPuroBrat

**ggiese** · 08-03-2005, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by RealPurobrat

Comfortable is what I intend to be. If you think that you can change that, then fact is you don't know me at all. You keep messing up my name as well. In case your reading is off, it is Puro (meaning cigar) and Brat (because that is what my wife calls me all the time) and I put them together. PuroBrat!! I have used this name for several years. It was never PuroMooch, because I do not Mooch. Like your sig says, I prefer to buy what I consume, thank you.

I would truly think that if you want to try and make someone feel uncomfortable, you would concentrate those efforts on someone who Welshed on a deal, ripped someone off or failed to pay for something they agreed to pay for. Or maybe you would want to beat up on someone who sold fake goods to other BOTL.

In other words, why attack me when I have never done any of the things above? Why attack someone who has NEVER done anything to another BOTL. Why try to make someone feel uncomfortable when all they ever wanted, and all they still want is to enjoy polite conversation with others who like cigars? I don't get your reasoning. Are you really that small that you have to attack someone who is innocent and try to paint them as Guilty of something?

I feel sorry for you. I actually was starting to think you were really a good guy, but this thread you started proves me wrong. Oh well, we all know my record for character judging, I guess I am still off on that. Thank you for setting me straight about you again, I needed that.

Hey, Hugh... Why don't you go chase after the bad guys and leave this poor, PuroBrat guy alone. He's not done anything wrong...

And here is Michael - in all his glory... The contrite, humble Michael... Not the Michael that posted the thread about learning his lesson, giving all his extra REAL NICE cigars to the firemen. The Michael who continues to claim that he has never, EVER done anything wrong...

Yeah, right...

**RealPurobrat** · 08-03-2005, 08:25 AM

George, you ask a question, you asked for the truth and I gave you just that. As usual you discount everything I say, accuse me of making it up and still push your warped recollections of the whole issue. You sir have a problem. I really don't care what you think, though I might have. You see, the people who really know me, do not feel the way you do. And those people are the ones that I care what they think. In your mind, you have made up a persona of what you think I am, but you didn't bother to Know me first.

When someone who knows me, or has even bothered to try and get to know me, tells me that I am doing something wrong, I will do everything in my power to try and change it, because they are likely correct. You are only trying to get me to talk about my so called "Situation" so you can say "See, there he goes, Mooching again". Others have done that as well, call me out, force me to talk about it, then slam me for having done so. I won't be falling for that anymore. I am no different in that regard than Pavlov's Dog. I may be a slow learner, but learn I do.

You whined, bitched and moaned when someone sent you some free cigars - pestering the hell out of the generous person who sent them to you - because someone at the post office lost them. You have a history, Michael. Whether you will admit it or not, you are a mooch. You have been one, and you will continue to be one.

Let me see, in this you claim to know who I was, what I am and also foresee my future.

Unfortunately what people who read this will not know is that you Don't know me, haven't known me that long anyway, AND you are telling absolute LIES about me (I pestered someone because the post office lost it? Good lord you have quite the imagination)

Yes, I have made some errors in the way I handled myself on the boards. But I learned from those mistakes just like most newbies. The problem is, guys like you refuse to let go once you get your claws in. You just keep digging at a person. I suppose it makes you feel better, but please tell me, what are trying to save the community from? What exactly am I doing that is bad for the community?

It is what you are doing here that is causing a Ripple, NOT what I am doing. All I am doing is trying to be a member of the community. I now know that whenever I say anything I have to be very careful how I word things, because I know you and others are reading it, looking for anything you can quote to try and prove I am the "Big Bad Wolf" you want everyone to see me as. So you will not see me talking about anything regarding my "Situation", and I will only be talking about the good cigars I smoke, not the Gas Station cigars. Because whenever I mention White Owls or Garcia Vegas or whatever, you guys want to say I am trying to garner some pity.

This is truly a pathetic thing you are doing. And you guys just keep drawing me out on it. Some have said to me that I should just ignore you guys when you start this, and I may have to try that method, but I recall from high school that there were a few who seemed to get picked on, and no matter how many times those guys were backed into a corner and poked with sticks, ignoring their tormentors didn't stop the poking. I doubt it would work with you either. A Playground Bully will always be just that.

One last thing, I answered your question, but you failed to answer mine.

**nhcigarfan** · 08-03-2005, 09:11 AM

Ok here's a newbie question. What does BOTL mean?

Also it looks like Puro is being driven away. He posted a "new newbie" post on the club stogie board about 23 mins after his last one on this thread.

**cigarsarge** · 08-03-2005, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by nhcigarfan

Ok here's a newbie question. What does BOTL mean?

Also it looks like Puro is being driven away. He posted a "new newbie" post on the club stogie board about 23 mins after his last one on this thread.

BOTL= Brother of The Leaf....Not a title earned easily.

**Hugh Jorgan** · 08-03-2005, 09:31 AM

PuroMooch's ClubStogie spew:

Just wanted to say hello. I was invited over here by another member. Been looking around a bit. Nice place you got here.

A little about me...

44, Married (twice) 3 kids (25, 10, 5), Lived in Texas all my life. Had lots of various jobs, drove a truck...built fences....dug ditches....shoveled chicken stuff...then I went to college and got into computers (bad, very bad )

Now I am working on a deal to start a cigar distribution to convenience stores in my area. Also setting up an EBay store if I can get all the "stuff" worked out. In other words...I am, between jobs

I have been around a while on boards (been run off of some real good ones ) and I look forward to getting to know some of you fine BOTL. If I already know you from somewhere else... I ain't that PB, I am another one.

**Drake** · 08-03-2005, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Hugh Jorgan

PuroMooch's ClubStogie spew:

that's weird. because he posted this here:

Just for the record, my head is above water now and I am finally getting to where I can stand on my own two feet. My finances are slowly improving

**the ox** · 08-03-2005, 12:07 PM

You guys keep trying to run off everyone who you think is a piece of shit, This place will become another LTC.

**nhcigarfan** · 08-03-2005, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by cigarsarge

BOTL= Brother of The Leaf....Not a title earned easily.

thanks

**Hugh Jorgan** · 08-03-2005, 10:44 AM

PuroBrat has taken advantage of the generousity of so many BOTLs . His confession of the number of cigars he has received does not begin to cover it!

Hell, bring up his name in a chatroom discussion and watch the responses of people who sheepishly admit to having fallen for his pity scam and sent him cigrs. He's a POS that continues to exist on cigar forums, knowing that it is a community of generous individuals who are likely to feed his habit. If he hangs out long enough, he knows some new sucker will eventually come along and send him a fiver. This POS preys on newbies to the forums; FOGs and old timers don't want anything to do with him.

POS says the cost of postage keeps him from sending sticks out? LMAO! Last time I checked, 4-5 day delivery for 5 sticks First Class was $1.65-$1.85.

If you can't afford $1.85, you can't afford to be buying White Owls with all those mouths to feed at home shithead.

Find another place to rest your lazy ass PuroBrat; CigarSmokers is not the place for you.

**RealPurobrat** · 08-03-2005, 11:48 AM

That is funny Hugh. When was the last time I asked anyone for anything? When was the last time I said I couldn't afford cigars? When was the last time I did anything but try to be a member?

I will answer for you, since you would only lie anyway...

Whenever I am forced to defend myself against your lies and attacks, and those of your friends that insist on trying to trash me. That is the only time I do anything that is not just be a part of the group.

So why don't you stop spewing your lies and let others decide for themselves what I am, based on my own actions? I welcome that opportunity, because without you and your freaks er I mean Friends spreading these lies, people will soon see that I am a good guy. YOU and CC are the ones who posted my address on this board, NOT me. YOU are the one who had that spammer send me Fake Cohibas, I never asked for them, and I didn't want them. So stop trashing me and let me be what I am. Most people will see that I am OK.

**ggiese** · 08-03-2005, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by RealPurobrat

One last thing, I answered your question, but you failed to answer mine.

What question would that be, Puro... All I saw was a whole bunch of statements about how you're the victim of circumstances and that you are generous with others, just not on the cigar boards (with the people who were generous with you). That someday you hope to repay all of that kindness as soon as your situation improves (subtle mooch attempt #104 - the "...as soon as my situation improves" speech). You say here that your current situation is improving slowly, despite the fact that the post at Club Stogie would suggest otherwise - (the Club Stogie post, I believe, is subtle mooch attempt #273, the "In other words...I am between jobs" speech).

And then you say I don't know you. You are what you write, Michael. And it's all there for everyone to read - VOLUMES of it (except for the bunch of posts from the Island that were deleted - which is a REAL shame because those were some of your more CLASSIC posts). No, Michael - I don't need anyone else to tell me who you are - you've done a DAMN good job of that yourself. I'd suggest to anyone else who you want to judge you not read what you write here, but go back and do research on Cigar Pass, Cigar Snobs and Lets Talk Cigars (what little there is left). It's a shame all the CF stuff is gone...

Go live out your exile - you are who you are and apparently you have no intention of changing it. You come in here - hat in hand, looking to make a "fresh start". Then you attack me and Hugh for pointing out your past. You haven't changed - you're a leopard and you still have spots...

Michael - there is a reason why we study history....

**RealPurobrat** · 08-03-2005, 11:55 AM

Whatever George, you don't know me, you like to twist what I say and point out "Subtle Mooch attempt # Blah Blah Blah" Finad a new hobby penis. I might start pointing to each of your posts and saying "see there you go Hate Monger Flame attempt #387"

I am pretty sure that anyone can see you are just wanting a fight. You aren't trying to better the community by making me go away, you want to Trash the community by keeping a fight going where there is NO reason to do so.

YOU are the Pariah, YOU and your buddies drive people away with your constant BS.

I am done with you George, you are one of the worst examples I ever saw. You don't know me, but you trash me. You twist things I say to make them look like what you claim I am. You are a true BOTL, but not a True BOM.

**ggiese** · 08-03-2005, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by RealPurobrat

Whatever George, you don't know me, you like to twist what I say and point out "Subtle Mooch attempt # Blah Blah Blah" Finad a new hobby penis. I might start pointing to each of your posts and saying "see there you go Hate Monger Flame attempt #387"

I am pretty sure that anyone can see you are just wanting a fight. You aren't trying to better the community by making me go away, you want to Trash the community by keeping a fight going where there is NO reason to do so.

YOU are the Pariah, YOU and your buddies drive people away with your constant BS.

I am done with you George, you are one of the worst examples I ever saw. You don't know me, but you trash me. You twist things I say to make them look like what you claim I am. You are a true BOTL, but not a True BOM.

Here ya go - classic PB post... I especially like the "Finad a new hobby penis". VERY classy!!! Was that ALSO said out of anger, PB??

You are what you are, Michael. You and Ox oughta go get a room!!!