Originally Posted by superman78
My girlfriend says I act like an 82 year-old....... Personally, I would prefer 18..........
Originally Posted by superman78
My girlfriend says I act like an 82 year-old....... Personally, I would prefer 18..........
"I Smoke in Moderation.... Just One Cigar at a Time." Mark Twain
I'm 18 and have no girlfriend...I'd take either of the above![]()
you just showed your age by wishing for a girlfriend,hold out as long as you can,my girlfriend was hot and blonde skinny,now shes pregnant and as big as a house,enjoy being 18 and go for the premium sampler instead of a gfOriginally Posted by thepyrofish
I drink a great deal.I sleep a little,and i smoke cigar after cigar.That is why i am in two-hundred percent form
-Winston Churchill
Originally Posted by superman78
Woah!! Lets hope she doesn't see that post! NEVER MESS WITH A PREGNANT WOMAN!!!
"I Smoke in Moderation.... Just One Cigar at a Time." Mark Twain
yeah that was bad ,but jesus i've always been so superficial gotta keep telling myself its my baby,she is soooo big,I'm such a dickOriginally Posted by Island Epicurean
I drink a great deal.I sleep a little,and i smoke cigar after cigar.That is why i am in two-hundred percent form
-Winston Churchill
Originally Posted by superman78
Hey, no one ever said being a father would be easy..... Or restful, or not scary, or not nerve recking, or ......
Seriously though, Congragulations!!!![]()
"I Smoke in Moderation.... Just One Cigar at a Time." Mark Twain
I havent noticed anyone shunning younger members on this particular board, although I definately have noticed a chill toward new members on other boards. Im also active on non cigar boards...ie. homebrewing and BBQ and, please no one take this the wrong way but, cigar smokers arent the most receptive people toward noobies. I really dont think age has anything to do with it, nor does ones personal knowledge of cigars. Rather, members take a cautious approach toward new members regardless of age or knowledge.
If you think you are getting treated rough here because of your age wait until you begin practice. I dont look 33 now and began practicing law at the age of 29. People come in, are being billed $200 an hour and they are looking at someone who reminds them of their kid. They automatically make judgments and some really give you a hard time.
I love it when an older attorney refrences a case or says I graduated law school in 1972...I just smile and say.. "I was born in 72" That to me is payback enough.
As the CT Supreme Court Justice stated in his keynote address at our graduation, "Law school in no way prepares you to be a lawyer...it just teaches you how to take land from Indians."
BTW my wife is from Cape Breton
Last edited by pierce652; 08-26-2005 at 10:20 PM.
Absolutely hilarious. I'm keeping that.Originally Posted by pierce652
Young, or old and rickety, doesn't matter to me, it's how one earns his bones, but - I can't believe anyone would tell anyone he wants to be a lawyer! Good grief!![]()
i'm taking a guess when he talks about cold shoulder hes referring to people like cc,when i first came here he came off a little irritating,then as i've been here longer i realize hes not like he seems at first hes always there with advice and completely approachable.Originally Posted by pierce652
I drink a great deal.I sleep a little,and i smoke cigar after cigar.That is why i am in two-hundred percent form
-Winston Churchill
I suppose the reason a lot of newbs get crap from the older members has to do with asking the same questions over and over, rather than re-reading some of the older threads where the question has already been asked and answered. I think as you spend more time on the boards this will become more obvious. And it's not like you don't want to help the new person - it's more like "not again, do I have to explain this for the umpteenth time!!!"
The cigar shop I go to is an eclectic mix of older and younger cigar smokers - wealthy and poor - of just about every conceivable race. We even have a couple in the store that take offense to woman sitting in with us, because they don't think it's proper. But through it all, all of us meet and chat - smoke cigars and swap stories (even the woman join us from time to time). We ultimately enjoy each others company and our shared passion for the leaf.
As for me - I don't consider myself old, but I'm definitely not young either. I have been in my profession for over 25 years, which gives me a bit of an edge with the younger pups. I do not being told I'm a "dinosaur" because I don't subscribe to their youthful ignorance. Many times they come in with the brand new, fantastic idea - which I know has been tried and failed... And they won't be convinced it can't work...
I don't mean to insult you, but this statement does bother me...
This is the attitude I get from a lot of the younger guys I work with. They think because they have been taught the latest and greatest, they now have the world by the tail, and they are going to run laps around their senior peers... Funny, the second quote in your post is exactly what you should be understanding...Originally Posted by pierce652
My reading of that quote is this. Any kind of schooling, I don't care what it is (law school, medical school, car repair school, whatever) gives you the tools you need to perform the job that's ahead of you. But in order for you to skillfully use those tools, it requires practice. You cannot get experience by going to school - it is only acquired with time. In law school, you learned how to take the land away from the indians. To become a lawyer, you must take the knowledge you gained and apply it - over and over again - until it becomes second nature. I studied Differential Equations - give me a test in it now, even though I was successful in the class not that long ago, and I would fail it miserably. I've not applied or used it since I learned it...Originally Posted by pierce652
I am an instructor for a large university, teaching the skills I've learned and practiced in Accident Reconstruction to others. I get a certain amount of satisfaction from seeing the bright, smiling faces on the first day of class, believing they are the best of the best - have already investigated accidents and can't understand why I would need several weeks to teach them any more about it... And I know that I'm about to totally brutalize them over the next several of weeks I'm with them with the math and science I'm about to teach. About 1/4 of them will not pass the class (it is VERY rare that we pass the entire class). But what's even more amusing to me is the math and science they will learn will be the easy part - the art of applying it is what the students will find the most challenging, which comes AFTER they leave the classroom.
So what does that have to do with cigars... Well - I've been on a path and learned what I've learned - some from personal experiences, some from reading about it, some from knowledge passed on from others. But the one thing that I keep in mind - no matter where I'm at - I never lose the idea that there isn't something more that I CAN learn.
To those of you who take offense with the FOG (Fucking Old Guys) taking pot shots at you - look at it as the gentle prodding you may need to get your ass in gear and study up. I can't possibly answer every question you may have (like "what cigars should I buy") Many times it's not what I'm going to tell you that matter most - it's what you LEARN from your experiences...![]()
This is true. I was 19 when I was managing a cigar shop. I had people come in regularly and go "You're the manager?" It never bothered me though. George made a good point, experience comes with age, no matter how you slice it. True, I smoked alot of cigars and I had a knack for running a retail environment but that does not change the fact that over 70% of my customers knew more than I did about cigars!Originally Posted by pierce652
Also, you must remember that cigar smokers are extremely passionate about their hobby and they closely guard it! If cigarette smokers shared our passion, we wouldn't have the insane anti-tobacco laws we have now. The truth is that if someone wants to share something you guard "sacred", they must prove they are worth entrusting it to. Most of us spend a significant amount of time in our respective cigar communities and we hold them sacred for that reason. We are not about to let ANYONE deteriorate them!![]()
But what Kevin7 said is also true. Our generation is thin skinned. There are way too many of us (males especially) that are simply TOO SOFT! I used the term "males" instead of men because IMO, men are not cry babies or whiners, which is exactly what so many males of our generation are! Learn to roll with the punches or hide under the bed dammit!
I am now climbing off my soapbox.![]()
Raisins: + 12 1/2Termites: 5.56
superman- congrats in advance for the child.
i thought the members here were great when i joined. and sure we can be a little rough to new commers but i look at it more a hazing ritual or rite of passage. it usually ends soon enough.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein
Nobody is going to pet and coddle you when you join ANY cigar related board. I am old compared to some of you but I am young to some of the old farts I smoke with.
What actually gets under my skin is a newbie asking a bunch of dumass questions with out even looking at previous threads and keeps asking repeated dumass questions. Also most people do not appreciate others waving their degrees around like it is some kind of big deal . Some of us are blue collar and don't really give a shit if you are a lawyer or doctor or whatever . Me ? I'm a blue collar redneck Journeyman Electrical Lineman so keep that in mind for future reference.
One bad thing about being young is that you boys seem to have a thin skin for the most part but ya all smoke cigars so thats cool by me. :)
The older I get ,the better I was
Duly noted, sir. I am screen capturing this however, for the next time my Dad harasses me about a cigar delivery...I'll just tell him it could be worse, he could have had another grandchildOriginally Posted by superman78
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Originally Posted by thepyrofish
You may be young, but you sure are quick...... Good Idea!![]()
"I Smoke in Moderation.... Just One Cigar at a Time." Mark Twain
Oh, congratulations from me too!
thats so cute ,your dad ,i remember those days,my dad smokes an occasional swisher i gave him a couple he really liked them asked me how much then flipped,id rather smoke one good cigar than a hundred swishersOriginally Posted by thepyrofish
I drink a great deal.I sleep a little,and i smoke cigar after cigar.That is why i am in two-hundred percent form
-Winston Churchill
Even I'm not so young that I can't look BACK upon the days when I smoked swishers![]()
...and thought they were goodXinfinity
yeah hes cheap as hell ,but im broke and his house is paid for and he retied at 42 so ,and buys a new truck every year with cashOriginally Posted by thepyrofish
I drink a great deal.I sleep a little,and i smoke cigar after cigar.That is why i am in two-hundred percent form
-Winston Churchill
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