Duplicate Accounts

[CoventryCat86]

CC, I think most people feel Hex has such evidence due to the post below.



It doesn't sound at all as if he is referring to you/the oxhole, when he states "posting habits continued until very recently." And if, in fact, he's not referring to you, whoever is guilty is remaining silent on the matter, as is Hex. No one seems to be addressing their duplicate account issue other than you, and I feel you have explained your account situation satisfactorily for everyone. Furthermore, while you believe that others' duplicate account issues are not lying nor trust issues, others clearly do. If they feel that way about the matter, that is clearly their choice, just as it is your choice to feel how you do.

Maybe since they are asking for Hex's clarification on the issue, you could let it go and he can answer how he sees fit. If he chooses to simply post "this matter is closed" fine. If he outs the members, has them tarred and feathered, and steals their wives' undergarments, that's fine too. But can't we just let Hex finish this?

I'm not asking you to refrain from addressing anyone who makes direct accusations at you. I just think the only way this matter is going to be resolved is if Hex makes a definitive statement, whether it's a big fat "STFU" or a "here's the fact's, here's my solution."

And as I told you, the "evidence" he thought he had wasn't as definitive as he first thought. By the way, there is no second "senior" member who is still using "duplicate accounts" therefore there is NO ONE who is "remaining silent" because no one is doing anything wrong with respect to "duplicate accounts."

Since Hex isn't addressing the issue and you guys keep talking about it, I'm going to keep talking about it too.

You guys want me to shut up on this? Fine, then stop posting in this thread, how's that sound?

[ggiese]

You guys want me to shut up on this? Fine, then stop posting in this thread, how's that sound?

I'm posting - so keep chatting...

[kevin7]

It ain't me . Some of you motherfuckers got lots of gall asking so many questions and pointing fingers at Cat ,I promise I wont answer fucking questions from newbies and the various tards that seem to be here . If this hurts your itty bitty feelings or makes your sissy ass mad enough to kick a puppy ,get over it.

I find myself rolling through here very quickly every day. Too many whining pussies and opinionated asshats . About time to flush the tiolet to get rid of the floaters

[prophetic_joe]

And as I told you, the "evidence" he thought he had wasn't as definitive as he first thought. By the way, there is no second "senior" member who is still using "duplicate accounts" therefore there is NO ONE who is "remaining silent" because no one is doing anything wrong with respect to "duplicate accounts."

According to Hex's post neither of these things is accurate. If you have some information that we all don't on then maybe you should share it. According to the post from Hex he found TWO senior members using multiple accounts and the postings cotinued until recently. He has not come back saying that this was not the case. No one has any reason to believe at this point that Hex's evidence was lacking except for Hex's silence on the issue. As far as we know from your statements so far Bill it seems that you are assuming things. As you say quite often show me the evidence for your logic. I will look at anything with an openmind.

[ggiese]

According to Hex's post neither of these things is accurate. If you have some information that we all don't on then maybe you should share it. According to the post from Hex he found TWO senior members using multiple accounts and the postings cotinued until recently. He has not come back saying that this was not the case. No one has any reason to believe at this point that Hex's evidence was lacking except for Hex's silence on the issue. As far as we know from your statements so far Bill it seems that you are assuming things. As you say quite often show me the evidence for your logic. I will look at anything with an openmind.

Don't be too doggone serious. I think you - and a lot of other people - are going to be speechless when you learn the truth.

Seriously - it's that freakin' Hugh Jorgan - my nemesis. He's always up to no good...

[CoventryCat86]

According to Hex's post neither of these things is accurate. If you have some information that we all don't on then maybe you should share it. According to the post from Hex he found TWO senior members using multiple accounts and the postings cotinued until recently. He has not come back saying that this was not the case. No one has any reason to believe at this point that Hex's evidence was lacking except for Hex's silence on the issue. As far as we know from your statements so far Bill it seems that you are assuming things. As you say quite often show me the evidence for your logic. I will look at anything with an openmind.

I'm not "assuming" anything Nate, my statements are based on my PM exchange with Hex. If I were to post it, you'd see for yourself but I'm sorry, I'm not going to do that. And I will assure you once again, my statements are 100% accurate.

Here's the deal, this is HEX'S board and he can do whatever the hell he wants. If he wants to remain silent then that is HIS choice, I for one will NOT browbeat, threaten him or give him infantile ultimatiums like "If you don't do (insert whining, childish, stupid demand here) I will leave and trash you and your board and blah, blah, whine, whine, piss and moan, etc....."

If you and others want to hold something against me when there's no fuggen proof of me ever doing anything wrong, go right ahead and do that. There's nothing I can do to change your mind and once again, I will NOT post my PM exchange with Hex just to satisfy people's curiosity.

[prophetic_joe]

I'm not "assuming" anything Nate, my statements are based on my PM exchange with Hex. If I were to post it, you'd see for yourself but I'm sorry, I'm not going to do that. And I will assure you once again, my statements are 100% accurate.

Here's the deal, this is HEX'S board and he can do whatever the hell he wants. If he wants to remain silent then that is HIS choice, I for one will NOT browbeat, threaten him or give him infantile ultimatiums like "If you don't do (insert whining, childish, stupid demand here) I will leave and trash you and your board and blah, blah, whine, whine, piss and moan, etc....."

If you and others want to hold something against me when there's no fuggen proof of me ever doing anything wrong, go right ahead and do that. There's nothing I can do to change your mind and once again, I will NOT post my PM exchange with Hex just to satisfy people's curiosity.

We are not privy to the pm's so it is wrong for you to act as if we should know any different then what Hex specifically said. Not seeing the pm's it would be hard to take your statements as 100% accurate. I respect you Bill but I'm not going to take all of your comments as gospel as I'm sure you will not take mine. Hex has however spoken on this matter and it seems to have been dealt with in a good manner.

I never gave an ultimatum nor was I whining about anything.

I never accused you of anything either and I was not and am not holding anything against you.

[CoventryCat86]

We are not privy to the pm's so it is wrong for you to act as if we should know any different then what Hex specifically said. Not seeing the pm's it would be hard to take your statements as 100% accurate. I respect you Bill but I'm not going to take all of your comments as gospel as I'm sure you will not take mine. Hex has however spoken on this matter and it seems to have been dealt with in a good manner.

Okay but now that Hex has elaborated on the whole mess in Post #103, that's consistent with what I've been saying all along so I don't think I'm being "wrong" here as you put it.

I never gave an ultimatum nor was I whining about anything.

That statement doesn't apply to you since you are correct, you never issued ultimatums or whined like others here have. That statement was direct at them, not you, sorry for the confusion.

I never accused you of anything either and I was not and am not holding anything against you.

And I never said you accused me of anything either. However, I did ask you the following two questions twice:

Does this mean you don't "trust" me anymore Nate?
Does this mean you won't participate in a trade or a pass with me?

You replied with:

Both depend

and

I really don't know

so that sure looks to me like you're now holding something against me that you had not prior to this whole "duplicate account" nonsense that proved to be nothing.

[prophetic_joe]

Okay but now that Hex has elaborated on the whole mess in Post #103, that's consistent with what I've been saying all along so I don't think I'm being "wrong" here as you put it.

so that sure looks to me like you're now holding something against me that you had not prior to this whole "duplicate account" nonsense that proved to be nothing.

You being wrong was in acting like we should all know what you knew before Hex's post # 103. You were behaving like us wanting to know what was going on was a terrible thing when you obviously wanted to know as well hence you and Hex pm'ing eachother. To act in this manner was wrong.

I will repeat myself, I am not holding anything against you, saying that makes the whole thing seem personal. When this whole mess started I stopped trusting darn near everybody. I also must admit that in my line of work the person who comes out saying no one is guilty of anything is usually the one guilty of something, so I had to ask myself why you seemed so against Hex making this public. I now understand that it was because you had already talked to Hex via pm and found out information on the situation, with that said you could have saved us both time by either posting in this thread that you knew something from Hex earlier or sending me a pm. I would have thought we knew eachother well enough for you to do that.

[ggiese]

You being wrong was in acting like we should all know what you knew before Hex's post # 103. You were behaving like us wanting to know what was going on was a terrible thing when you obviously wanted to know as well hence you and Hex pm'ing eachother. To act in this manner was wrong.

I will repeat myself, I am not holding anything against you, saying that makes the whole thing seem personal. When this whole mess started I stopped trusting darn near everybody. I also must admit that in my line of work the person who comes out saying no one is guilty of anything is usually the one guilty of something, so I had to ask myself why you seemed so against Hex making this public. I now understand that it was because you had already talked to Hex via pm and found out information on the situation, with that said you could have saved us both time by either posting in this thread that you knew something from Hex earlier or sending me a pm. I would have thought we knew eachother well enough for you to do that.

I hear what you're saying... Kinda hard to trust anyone unless you REALLY know them, eh? I mean - really - we hear about all the "friendships" on these cigar boards. The only ones I really put any kind of faith in are those that have been over years of interactions. Some of the people I've seen that have been around for six months or a year and are "good friends" with others on the site raise my suspicions...

The one thing you can do is trust that those that have been around for a long time typically have weathered a lot of the crap you're seeing now. And have a pretty uncanny insight into what's really going on. It may surprise you sometimes when they go after someone you think is a great guy - only to find out later they weren't so wrong about going after the person. I've seen it a number of times - and I've rarely seen it be wrong...

[CoventryCat86]

You being wrong was in acting like we should all know what you knew before Hex's post # 103. You were behaving like us wanting to know what was going on was a terrible thing when you obviously wanted to know as well hence you and Hex pm'ing eachother. To act in this manner was wrong.

I will repeat myself, I am not holding anything against you, saying that makes the whole thing seem personal. When this whole mess started I stopped trusting darn near everybody. I also must admit that in my line of work the person who comes out saying no one is guilty of anything is usually the one guilty of something, so I had to ask myself why you seemed so against Hex making this public. I now understand that it was because you had already talked to Hex via pm and found out information on the situation, with that said you could have saved us both time by either posting in this thread that you knew something from Hex earlier or sending me a pm. I would have thought we knew eachother well enough for you to do that.

so I had to ask myself why you seemed so against Hex making this public.

I wasn't "so against Hex making this public" I merely pointed out to you and the rest of the mob assembled that Hex has a policy that he stated in the first post in this thread which is:

Duplicate Accounts are not permitted. Anyone caught signing up duplicate accounts is subject to immediate banning (yes your main account will be banned too).

If you think you might fall under this new policy, then PM me and we can handle the matter with out the drama.

Thanks.

Since this is HEX'S policy, I felt that you and the rest of the mob who were demanding that people be "outed" were wrong and I still feel that way, not because I was "guilty" as you said.

with that said you could have saved us both time by either posting in this thread that you knew something from Hex earlier or sending me a pm.

Yeah, like you would have believed me if I did that.....
You weren't going to believe a damn thing I said until you heard it directly from Hex so sorry Nate, I don't think your suggestion here would have been a solution as you're now implying that it would have been.