how many heads....

**CoventryCat86** · 01-03-2006, 10:30 PM

Watch Eric delete the whole thread now because that's the way he runs things

He loses his temper, loses control of his emotions then thinks everything will be "okay" if he hides the evidence and deletes the thread!

Go ahead Eric, I've already saved all the "good stuff" here

**ggiese** · 01-03-2006, 10:33 PM

Rob,

Thanks for stopping by and sharing your views about Eric Turner, TBS Cigars, StogieChat, and specific members of that board. Clearly the only view I have is based upon some very minor readings in the distant past, and what has happened recently.

Based upon my take of the whole situation, Eric has brought himself into the limelight recently. He came to this site (amongst others) initially as an unpaid advertiser. Some have heard of Eric and TBS cigars before - to be honest - I had not. But - based upon his postings here and other boards, I'd be hard pressed to ever do business with an individual who puts himself in the light as a short tempered, unbalanced businessman. No low priced premium cigar is going to change my impressions in that regard.

As far as defending your child. I am the parent of several teenaged children. I love those little critters dearly. The rambunctious little hooligans manage to drive their old man nuts with their shenanigans from time to time. That doesn't mean I don't love them less - I just love them in a different way. When you say they are my "babies", and I would defend them - you're damn right!!! However, would I defend them to the point that I would deny they are rambunctious little hooligans hell bent on their shenanigans? Not even!!!

You've got Eric doing some interesting things to drum up business. Certainly expanding your market into other cigar boards as an unpaid advertiser opens you up a tad. Questions are going to be asked. And if Eric is the "parent" of his "baby", he should honestly and openly answer any questions put to him. Or - better yet - let the company speak for itself. If he's of the mind to "vigorously" defend his business (as he has done here an other places - with rude, nasty, trolling behavior), I think he can fully expect the type of treatment he's received. If Eric's business is as good as you say it is - he shouldn't have to defend it, Rob. It should speak for itself.

As far as the members of StogieChat - there is no doubt some great people over there. But there are also those that talk out of one side of their mouth on this board, and then do exactly what they preach against on StogieChat. That is just plain wrong. If you have a problem, and you go to another board because you want to rid yourself of that problem - EXCELLENT - not every board was made to accomodate everyone's personal likes and dislikes. You gotta make some choices about what you will and will not tolerate. StogieChat is not the right fit for some - while it's near perfect for others. Same with CigarSmokers.

But, in my view, it is not right to rid yourself of your problem, and then move to the next board and make the problem the topic of conversation. Sorry - to me that's just absolute hypocrisy (FALSENESS) at its very core. You don't need to defend who I'm talking about - his very own words speak well for him!!! You don't want stress - yet your blood boils when you see someone posting and it's not in your new digs??? How would you possibly know if you don't pay attention??? Sorry - I don't buy the argument that you are highly offended and distraught by seeing mangled dead bodies at an accident site when you slow down and gawk - that just doesn't make any sense to me....

Bottom line - you don't want to be criticized - don't place yourself in a critical light... Eric and others don't seem to understand that concept and the chase goes on. I believe you can clearly see CC doesn't mind being in the critical light, even though he is being highly criticized... It will never end if Eric and others choose to continue this nonsense.

**CoventryCat86** · 01-03-2006, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rob, The LI Cowboy

1. I didn't post to be nicey nice. Just to state my opinion. I'm not a nice person. Never proclaimed to be. Never have been.

2 It was all said in jest as anyone who knows or researches my posts sees that I do frequently and often. If you'd be so kind as to research the other bomb referred to I think you'd find it to be quite the comedy. Most of the other members did.

3a. If I may request one last thing, well two actually. Would you all please rip on my friend Tonto in the name of your cause too please. He so laments the lack of attention that we give him and would certainly appreciate the notoriety.

3b. Would you please ban me now because I'm having a devil of a time deleting my account. Thank you.

LMAO!!

Tonto isn't worth my time, he's clearly "challenged"

Sorry, you signed up NO BAN FOR YOU!!!

I need SOME way to be able to contact you regarding herfs we organize on Long Island at Churchills (exit 48 off the LIE) since I absolutely refuse to ever post on StogieChat even though I'm not banned!

**ggiese** · 01-03-2006, 10:37 PM

I call on Hex to start a NON-BAN poll!!!

I want to see Rob immortalized at our site for eternity!!!

bigpoppapuff · 01-03-2006, 10:39 PM

po wrote this

My .02 ok here goes. ET I was not here when this all took place so I have no Idea who he is. First off the reason I came to this site is because everyone stayed away from this type of crap. I only stayed because of what a great bunch of guys and gals that are on here. I have the up most respect for all of you. There are so many knowledgeable people here and I have learned alot. I like all of the possitive attitudes here. I feel like I really belong. ET you have shown me nothing other than A++++ when I have dealt with you. No matter what anybody says about you it will not change my mind one bit cause I know the type of business man you are. Everytime I have ordered something from you, you have always included extra and I always received my packages timely. You are a stand up guy to me and all the others on this board. I don't give a rats a$$ what this guy or others say or will say. It's not worth a second thought. Lets keep it possitive here. I just think he is jealous of you and this is his way of getting at you so don't lower your standards for this guy. I vote to have this removed.

spelling is not a strong point.....kissing and fondling eric's ass is!!!!....LOLOLOL...

**CoventryCat86** · 01-03-2006, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by ggiese

I call on Hex to start a NON-BAN poll!!!

I want to see Rob immortalized at our site for eternity!!!

I want in on that action too!!

WE WANT ROB, WE WANT ROB!!!

**Rob, The LI Cowboy** · 01-03-2006, 10:45 PM

I feel the need to do some sort of hostage tape.

[holding up newspaper]

They are treating me well.

If the infidelic government will remove the slanderous postings they will guarantee my safe deliverance.

Let this stand as a warning to all others who would oppose their righteaous might.

**CoventryCat86** · 01-03-2006, 10:46 PM

Okay Sid, what's the final tally on who has their head up Eric's ass? So far, I see:

tfire
tommy2guns
JoeV. Cigar Connoisseur
po
LZ6
Bartok
Rubie
Mark, High Class Cigar Hoe
Nightshade
fishpoop
Tonto

Skipper & Rob, The LI Cowboy don't make the list....

**CoventryCat86** · 01-03-2006, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Rob, The LI Cowboy

I feel the need to do some sort of hostage tape.

[holding up newspaper]

They are treating me well.

If the infidelic government will remove the slanderous postings they will guarantee my safe deliverance.

Let this stand as a warning to all others who would oppose their righteaous might.

Rob, you are WAY too funny!!!

**ggiese** · 01-03-2006, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Rob, The LI Cowboy

But a word of warning here you have no business running Tfire down at your place, he is a good brother and has been through more shit in a nasty place than
you can imagine and does not deserve any shit from any of you! Leave it alone now. Just my 2p.

Rob - there is no doubt few individuals on this or other cigar boards (including StogieChat) who have a history which would lead others to compassion if they were to know the circumstances. I applaud tfire for his service to this country - it is a strong sacrifice, no doubt. But I really don't appreciate anyone wearing that on their sleeve.

I know individuals who are embroiled in these discussions who's own personal past causes one to reflect on their sacrifices. Yet - tfire is the only one who is being defended in that regard.

I guess I'm most disturbed that he has chosen to make that information very public. Has made statements that he doesn't want the stress. Then he jumps in, with both feet, one of the most vocal - and then has other members saying, "Hey, leave the poor guy alone. He's got a lot of baggage..."

I've got some advice. If tfire is as concerned about his stress level as he claims - he needs to pull the reigns back a bit. His horse is out of control. And others defending his inflammatory posts is doing nothing more than adding fuel to that stress fire of his...

**Rob, The LI Cowboy** · 01-03-2006, 10:48 PM

WE WANT ROB, WE WANT ROB!!![/QUOTE]

You tell the general I'm willing to discuss the terms of your surrender. You tell him; if he'll order his men to put down their weapons and line up, I'll take them in and I'll try my best to save most of them.

bigpoppapuff · 01-03-2006, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Rob, The LI Cowboy

I feel the need to do some sort of hostage tape.

[holding up newspaper]

They are treating me well.

If the infidelic government will remove the slanderous postings they will guarantee my safe deliverance.

Let this stand as a warning to all others who would oppose their righteaous might

i want coventry cat to have my child.

wow!!!...you're here to stay!!!...lolololol

**Rob, The LI Cowboy** · 01-03-2006, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

wow!!!...you're here to stay!!!...lolololol

but i warn you. i'm a screamer.

bigpoppapuff · 01-03-2006, 10:58 PM

scream away,my brotha!!....those lumps in the sandbox are cat turds.......we keep telling cc that it's wrong!!!...

**Shagaroo** · 01-03-2006, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Rob, The LI Cowboy

but i warn you. i'm a screamer.

Simmer down Broke Back....

Best way to make it go away... Eric needs to own up to what he did. Simple as that. He can finish up that tasty little thread over on SC with a heart to heart with the truth, not delete it, and the war will end. Though, considering there are no board invasions, it's more a spitball fight than a war. Nobody here wants to take away his ability to make a living, however, no one here wants to let someone shit on us and pretend it didn't happen.

**Bkcloud114** · 01-03-2006, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

LMAO!!

Tonto isn't worth my time, he's clearly "challenged"

Sorry, you signed up NO BAN FOR YOU!!!

I need SOME way to be able to contact you regarding herfs we organize on Long Island at Churchills (exit 48 off the LIE) since I absolutely refuse to ever post on StogieChat even though I'm not banned!

WHAT ???.... I still don't believe you exist..... I believe you are a computer generated figment of our imagination..... What was the name of that movie..... Simone..... she was a computer generated woman

You gonna show up at Schlesinger's ???

**Shagaroo** · 01-03-2006, 11:28 PM

Then again, fuck that douchebag piece of shit.... http://stogiechat.com/cgi-bin/yabb/Y...num=1136336233

**CoventryCat86** · 01-03-2006, 11:48 PM

WOW! This TBSCigars aka Eric Turner is absolutely incredible!!

Even when his strongest supporters are urging him to STFU, he STILL keeps up with his bullshit, whining and LYING.

Eric we NEVER insisted you "ban" Carlos/Oblik & Eleuthardt, WHY DO YOU KEEP LYING?

This guy has clearly lost it..............

**CoventryCat86** · 01-04-2006, 01:26 AM

OMG when will it end?

Eric made a post at the end of the thread he started with a poll asking people to vote if I was "a jerk" or not

Now this post is actually seems to be a fairly sincere attempt to try and resolve things. I started reading it and I was ALMOST moved by it. Here it is:

It was suggested to run the poll by one of our members here, as a solution to the post. I did take the intial post down for about 20 minutes in good faith that things would come back to reality. In which case I was slammed for taking it down by you on your forum.

From what I read CC, you want an apology? I admit that I was upset over the comments about the special that I posted on the CigarSmokers forum. The comments posted was about something that happened a year ago and I thought was rather petty even then. I posted to that respect and again explained it was policy at that time.

As for the order in question and personal information. I was involved with talking to you in that thread concerning the Padron 1926 cigars, and them not being listed. It was no "secret" that you were interested, as you were upset that they were sold out so quickly. I posted another box, and "poof" they were gone within minutes of letting you know in the forum. While I thought that was a mutual ground where you ordered some cigars you wanted, and hopefully an end to the pokes, I posted a thank you...although I was still a bit confused as why the change of heart.

Again, my mistake as everyone could not believe that you placed an order and obviously I cannot prove that fact because it it would involve giving out private information. However, the information that I mentioned was already public, as cc stated, although you claim that I gave out private information from YOUR ORDER. If it was not your order, as you claim, then obviously I don't have any of your personal information, correct?

I apologize for the personal thank you, as I should not have ever of done that. I'm used to thanking members here all the time and while we are more family here, I made a mistake there. I do normally thank my customers when they order via the forum specials.

Either way, lets quit the crap. I'll drop the threads, even remove them if so asked. However, I would appreciate the same on your side as well. While you and I will never see eye to eye CC, I think both forums are tired of reading and taking sides.

So state your terms to end this so we can all move on to doing something a little more constructive. We need Rob back too because I'm tired of tending to his horses over here....

ET

Not bad, huh? Well, call me a pain in the ass who "won't let go" but this part REALLY pisses me off:

However, the information that I mentioned was already public, as cc stated, although you claim that I gave out private information from YOUR ORDER. If it was not your order, as you claim, then obviously I don't have any of your personal information, correct?

Eric, you ALMOST came close to admitting you were wrong and lied but just couldn't bring yourself to it, could you?

This is a FACT and you KNOW IT:

I never ordered any cigars from you.

So WHY IN THE HELL do you keep trying to twist everyone's words to perpetuate your lie? I NEVER "claim(ed) that (you) gave out private information from (my) order"

My reason for being very upset with you is that in an attempt to justify your lie that I ordered cigars from you, you did an internet search of information about my family and made it a point to post it thinking you were so damned clever or something......

This is absolutely incredible

So you want to "quit the crap"? What you REALLY need to do is post:

"CoventryCat86 aka Bill Jenkins never ordered cigars from me."

So until you do that, I will continue to maintain you are a liar and generally make your life as miserable as I can...........

Oh, and I have NO POWER to delete, alter or remove threads here. This board has a policy AGAINST that type of bullshit so I cannot offer you anything "on (my) side as well."

This is a non-moderated board where everyone is free to speak their minds as they see fit. I have no "control" or "power" over ANYONE here unlike you at your site where people know that if they cross you, you'll ban them. Yes it certainlly does seem that everyone at StogieChat is indeed sick and tired of you insisting on keeping up with your flaming, lying and your stupid polls BUT you are in no position to assume and/or draw conclusions about what people are thinking here.....