Admin Access Attempts

**slcraiders** · 03-08-2006, 10:05 PM

Bullshit in it's purest form!!!

**Cigar Jack** · 03-08-2006, 10:19 PM

A shame, you think they'd know better.

**PassThis** · 03-09-2006, 12:36 AM

Hex,

In response to this thread, I'd appreciate you getting the facts straight rather than simply trying to make me out to be "malicious". Now for the rest of you, here's what happened... My friend who came over yesterday offered to help me apply updates to my site. He doesn't know what the admin url is, and I was on the phone. I told him to go to my bookmarks and go to THE CIGAR site. Not knowing which one it was, and me being preoccupied, he went to the wrong site, and by the time I came back in, he tried to log into cigarsmokers multiple times, instead of cigarpass.

I apologize for any suspicions this may have caused, especially with all of this other crap going on. However, I really don't appreciate you taking this incident and using it to make me look like I was in the wrong. Had I seen your email earlier, I would have responded to it! I receive over 250 emails a day, most of which are junkmail, and yours was directed to my junkmail folder. After being made aware of this thread, I have scanned my outlook junk folder and found the email from you. As a TRUE Brother of the Leaf, I am disappointed with this entire situation, and it goes beyond this particular thread. I'm sure you know what I'm referring to.

**Bkcloud114** · 03-09-2006, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by PassThis

Hex,

In response to this thread, I'd appreciate you getting the facts straight rather than simply trying to make me out to be "malicious". Now for the rest of you, here's what happened... My friend who came over yesterday offered to help me apply updates to my site. He doesn't know what the admin url is, and I was on the phone. I told him to go to my bookmarks and go to THE CIGAR site. Not knowing which one it was, and me being preoccupied, he went to the wrong site, and by the time I came back in, he tried to log into cigarsmokers multiple times, instead of cigarpass.

I apologize for any suspicions this may have caused, especially with all of this other crap going on. However, I really don't appreciate you taking this incident and using it to make me look like I was in the wrong. Had I seen your email earlier, I would have responded to it! I receive over 250 emails a day, most of which are junkmail, and yours was directed to my junkmail folder. After being made aware of this thread, I have scanned my outlook junk folder and found the email from you. As a TRUE Brother of the Leaf, I am disappointed with this entire situation, and it goes beyond this particular thread. I'm sure you know what I'm referring to.

and..... who gave you that information.... you still haven't answered that

**godfather** · 03-09-2006, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Bkcloud114

and..... who gave you that information.... you still haven't answered that

Well Rod???

**PassThis** · 03-09-2006, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by Bkcloud114

and..... who gave you that information.... you still haven't answered that

Sorry Tommy, I consider that to be an internal issue.

**Bkcloud114** · 03-09-2006, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by PassThis

Sorry Tommy, I consider that to be an internal issue.

Internal ????.....

Then that info needs to be shared with Hex.....

**Bkcloud114** · 03-09-2006, 01:09 AM

Rod,

I have enjoyed the amount of time i spent a CP... I have learned alot from the FOGs and established members. I have learned that "trust" is a major issue with this society. A "trust" has been broken here. As a BOTL yourself, you have to understand that. I have called out a couple of people on CP because I believe they were taking advantage of people's "trust". Now somebody here has broken a trust and we need to know who that was.... Internal, yes..... and I feel I am one of the internal people who needs to know that along with quite a few others...... Even on your BB.... If that person cannot be trusted here, how can he be trusted even on your BB.....

I learned something a long time ago..... If a person will cheat for you, then they will cheat on you.

If a person will break a trust for you.... then they will break a trust against you.... you are not doing anybody any good by not telling us who did this.....

edited because I can't spell

**Leebo** · 03-09-2006, 01:17 AM

Seems like someone is playing both sides.....

My grandpappy always told me this....If you go snoopin', you better be prepared for what you find.

I think you've fallen off the deep end Rod. Obviously, you're on a witch hunt but it looks like you've shot yourself in the foot from where I'm standing. It's come to my attention that my name got brought up in all of this, which I find hilarious. I had nothing to do with any of this but you chose to lump me in with the "problems" on your forum.

I've always been honest and told you what i thought, even when you didn't want to listen. Well, I think you probably realized a few things in the last few days if I had to make a guess. You've never gotten over some issues we've had. I can live with that. But when one talks out of both sides of their mouth, things are bound to come full circle eventually.

You can't tell folks they are the ones who built your board one month and then chastise them the next. Goes towards credibility I'm afraid.

You've got a Judas over here Hex. I'm sure he's on mine as well....it will all come out in the wash.

Rod, hopefully you've learned your lesson and I wish you all the best.

Lee

**Shagaroo** · 03-09-2006, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by PassThis

Sorry Tommy, I consider that to be an internal issue.

blah blah blah... just another asshat.

**bfreebe** · 03-09-2006, 08:16 AM

Wow!

**Drake** · 03-24-2006, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by PassThis

Sorry Tommy, I consider that to be an internal issue.

funny he never mentioned that anonomous email bullshit before. what a guy...

**Kenyth** · 03-27-2006, 11:06 AM

My opinion doesn't mean much, but here it is.

IMHO, I think a computer geek gave in to temptation and tried to poke around the site doing the equivalent of peeking through keyholes. That may well be how the previous info was obtained, or maybe that particular info just whetted his appetite enough to try looking for more. I don't think there was any malicious intent, and the offense is not exactly punishable by the death sentence, but it sure is embarrassing when you get caught rifling around in someone else's drawers. The first response is looking for an excuse. The best thing to do is own up to poking around where you weren't supposed to and apologizing for it.

**hex1848** · 03-09-2006, 12:55 AM

Especially in light of everything going on I would have expected a PM explaining what happened before I found it in the logs 4 hours later. People make mistakes, I’m the first one to admit I’m not perfect, but I also let people know when I screw up.

While I don’t agree with the content in question, the fact is private information from this forum made it to you without authorization and you refuse to revel how you got it. (or did you miss that email too?) You don't think someone trying to further access restricted content on this site from your IP address might further arouse suspicion?

Originally Posted by PassThis

Hex,

In response to this thread, I'd appreciate you getting the facts straight rather than simply trying to make me out to be "malicious". Now for the rest of you, here's what happened... My friend who came over yesterday offered to help me apply updates to my site. He doesn't know what the admin url is, and I was on the phone. I told him to go to my bookmarks and go to THE CIGAR site. Not knowing which one it was, and me being preoccupied, he went to the wrong site, and by the time I came back in, he tried to log into cigarsmokers multiple times, instead of cigarpass.

I apologize for any suspicions this may have caused, especially with all of this other crap going on. However, I really don't appreciate you taking this incident and using it to make me look like I was in the wrong. Had I seen your email earlier, I would have responded to it! I receive over 250 emails a day, most of which are junkmail, and yours was directed to my junkmail folder. After being made aware of this thread, I have scanned my outlook junk folder and found the email from you. As a TRUE Brother of the Leaf, I am disappointed with this entire situation, and it goes beyond this particular thread. I'm sure you know what I'm referring to.

**Drake** · 03-09-2006, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by PassThis

Hex,

In response to this thread, I'd appreciate you getting the facts straight rather than simply trying to make me out to be "malicious". Now for the rest of you, here's what happened... My friend who came over yesterday offered to help me apply updates to my site. He doesn't know what the admin url is, and I was on the phone. I told him to go to my bookmarks and go to THE CIGAR site. Not knowing which one it was, and me being preoccupied, he went to the wrong site, and by the time I came back in, he tried to log into cigarsmokers multiple times, instead of cigarpass.

I apologize for any suspicions this may have caused, especially with all of this other crap going on. However, I really don't appreciate you taking this incident and using it to make me look like I was in the wrong. Had I seen your email earlier, I would have responded to it! I receive over 250 emails a day, most of which are junkmail, and yours was directed to my junkmail folder. After being made aware of this thread, I have scanned my outlook junk folder and found the email from you. As a TRUE Brother of the Leaf, I am disappointed with this entire situation, and it goes beyond this particular thread. I'm sure you know what I'm referring to.

i think you're full of shit. man up and tell the truth. and you're no better than the rat you're protecting as long as you're protecting him.

**ggiese** · 03-09-2006, 11:03 AM

Guys - Rod really doesn't deserve this and I ask that you please cut him a tad bit of slack. He has proven himself over the last six years to be a good guy - and he established a cigar board community which is currently experiencing some "issues" but generally is a great place to hang out. The growth of the place has been phenominal, but as a result the number of asshats showing up will match that growth. It's a very frustrating problem, and is much more a complex issue to deal with than here. I sincerely hope Hex never has to be in Rod's position, but I'm sure Hex's vision would be to see this place become something like CigarPass in size - so it's inevitable.

I think the whole episose between Rod and CC will be worked out. What I'm VERY concerned about is the backlash this whole situation has created. The bigger issue is who this person was who violated a trust. That really has caused an uproar in three different cigar communities. Whoever captured this conversation said in frustration and passed it along to Rod had only one thing in mind - to cause maximum damage to CC's reputation. If I were Rod and read what was in that thread I'd be pissed as hell. But, and I think Rod understands this (I'm not going to speak on his behalf) given the context in which it was said you could understand what CC was doing. Should he not have posted what he did? You betcha - and I think CC will address that with Rod. But the fact remains - whoever passed that info on to Rod should be drawn, quartered, tarred and feathered. That really was low - and in my estimation - was done with maliciousness at heart. I really would like their explanation as to why they did it - because it may have been something entirely innocent - we don't know because we've not been offered an explanation.

Also, I believe I know Rod as much as I know Hex. Both are very great guys. I may be wrong, but I really find it hard to believe either would attempt to hack into another cigar board to "spy". It is not in either of their character's. If I learned otherwise I would feel very much confused and betrayed.

Bottom line - this whole situation has three cigar communities left trying to recover from this mess. Some members in those communities will just let it go because, after all, the discussion is about cigars not drama. But - there are those in those three communities who have developed deep friendships and those friendships are really being tested right now. This is tearing apart the family. I hope it not only resolves itself, but it also leads to a tighter bond between us. And I hope relationships like the one between CC and Rod can be repaired - it will take some doing, but I really think it's worth it in the long run.

**Shagaroo** · 03-09-2006, 11:20 AM

Horseshit George. Rod is doing the asshat dance and you know it. Why should he be cut more slack than any other established BOTL who has screwed the pooch? Lame ass, bullshit excuses of why his IP was logged trying to access the admin section. Protecting a scumbag coward. Why does he have CSmokers bookmarked in a such a prominent spot that someone would confuse it for his own site, a friend in his house on his own computer no less, when he hasn't had a nice thing to say about Hex or CSmokers, ever?

This thing stinks from top to bottom and it shouldn't be excused and glossed over because it's Rod.

**hex1848** · 03-09-2006, 11:25 AM

I've spent way to much time researching this to be productive in areas that really matter. I feel I am doing my job as the administrator and informing the community about what I know from analyzing the logs. I'm ready to drop this mess completely as soon as whom ever compromised the trust of this community steps up to the plate and apologizes.

bigpoppapuff · 03-09-2006, 11:36 AM

the dog ate your homework??...
there was a flood??....

bullshit is bullshit...

**mauied1101** · 03-09-2006, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by PassThis

My friend who came over yesterday offered to help me apply updates to my site. He doesn't know what the admin url is, and I was on the phone. I told him to go to my bookmarks and go to THE CIGAR site. Not knowing which one it was, and me being preoccupied, he went to the wrong site, and by the time I came back in, he tried to log into cigarsmokers multiple times, instead of cigarpass.

I just have a couple questions - why would you have the cigarsmokers admin site bookmarked? Or let's say you didn't have it bookmarked, how would this person know what the CS admin URL is?