i'm pissed off.....

[SmokinDVM]

It's on 2 other forums spanky, and it's called your character and your reputation and it follows you everywhere you go. Unlike dirtpiles like club stogie or stogie chat, what you do other places matters here. You don't get to be a scumbag somewhere else then come here and get a "clean slate" and pretend it didn't happen. Don't like it? Don't be a scumbag somewhere else.

And for the record, about 5 seconds after you registered here I predicted this outcome with you. Thanks for proving me right. I also find it funny that you have an excuse for all your over the line tyrades and it's always someone else pushed you and made you do it. Not once is there any mention of personal responsiblity for going over the line, repeatedly. Kids act like that... makes you think don't it?

Again, you don't know shit about me. You and your holier than thou attitude think you do, but we both know you don't.
So, it's not good to be a scumbag elsewhere, but it's ok for you to be one here.
And a psychic to boot. How do you manage juggling all your responsibilities? So when do you plan on organizing my banning? Not that I really care, but I like to be able to plan ahead.

You want to know why I don't mention personal responsibility for going over the line? Because I didn't cross any line. But what the hell, if you like drawing lines in your imaginary sandbox, go right ahead. You obviuosly like playing the part of the BB police bully. I bet it makes you feel real grown-up.

Am I deleting messages? How would you know, you didn't read any of them anyway.

[SmokinDVM]

Hey bpp,
I think he wants me to prostrate myself before him and beg forgiveness.
Not very likely.

[bigpoppapuff]

shhhhh....be vewwy quiet....he's off digging up some internet dirt and flexing his internet muscles in front of a mirror....

[SmokinDVM]

shhhhh....be vewwy quiet....he's off digging up some internet dirt and flexing his internet muscles in front of a mirror....

I'm all giddy with anticipation.

[basil]

Sdvm - If you think anyone here is being obsequious, who the hell do you think any of us might be playing toady to? I've got a built in, deeply ingrained, respect that borders on awe and reverence for vets - I grew up on a cattle ranch and have worked side-by-side with several, but the more you talk, and this almost feels like heresy, the less I like you. And it ain't got nothing to do with anyone else's views. It's got everything to do with the character and reputation you're defining for yourself right here before my very eyes. Now before you go to any great lengths telling me how much you don't give a shit, you should re-read this post you've conveniently chosen to ignore:

ATTENTION, ATTENTION, this is one of the stupidest arguments put forth on internet BB's in the world:

"If you think you can "know" someone from their comments on an internet BB, you're a sad, delusional, petty, little "asshat"."

I don't care who uses it, this is the last time I want to read it. When one BB personality responds to another BB personality with something like, "I know how you are, I know you from all these other places, and I know you're a jerk, meanie, etc...," clearly the BB personality does NOT mean, I "know" you in any existentially important manner, and definitely not in any Biblical sense. Clearly the reference, unless otherwise qualified (which it rarely is), is that they know how you are as a BB personality. And of course, on the world of BB's, that's all we can know if we've never met the other BB personality in real life, and so we can only go by BB behavior.

Edited here to add an analogy: Spud Webb can jump wicked high on Earth, Spud decides to fly to Jupiter and tell all the martians how he can jump real high, they say prove it, so he jumps, and it's wicked low. Spud Webb may be a totally different person on Earth, he may have Michael and Charles and Kareem fly out to Jupiter to reaffirm the martians, no really, he CAN jump high, it's just in another world. Spud then says, "you martians are stupid for not thinking I can jump high." The martians reply, "But, when you jump in this world it is not high, it is very low." Spud then says, "But it doesn't matter if I am not that way here, because I am on Earth, so treat me for how I am on Earth, not for how I am here." Now, do the martians REALLY no Spud Web, no, they don't, because they don't know him in the context of how he spends the majority of his life, which is on Earth, having one of the best vertical leaps ever! But, as far as they do know him, that is, what he has shown him on their world (Jupiter), he is not one of the best vertical leapers, he's one of the worst. Two things to take away from this, one is the obvious, it is clear that there can be a difference between someone in real life and in the virtual world of the internet, and that pretty much anyone who has been around long enough knows this and thus bases most of what they say off of this "virtual personality." The more important point is though, whether we are in the virtual world or not, there should be no difference between who we are in reality and our "virtual personality." Obviously, the latter point doesn't have any

bearing on the argument put forth before this analogy. But, it is a good thought to put out there anyway.

Now you know and knowing is half the battle. --GI Joe

Soap Box off.

And grow a set and fucking reply like a fucking grownup, instead of this bullshit drivel:

The thought police are here.
Actually, you don't know shit about me, your comments prove it. If you think you can "know" someone from their comments on an internet BB, you're a sad, delusional, petty, little "asshat". Just as bad as the people you claim to be policing for everyone elses benefit. Dare I say major-like. You're just like the other internet punks, who attack someone who has a different social, political, or religious view than you do, and cry like a baby when they attack back. In fact, you're probably just another alter-ego of one of the assholes I've told to fuck-off in the past.
Basically, you've created a nice little safe haven from people you think are "asshats", and damn whatever anyone else thinks. Eventually, you'll be here all by yourself.

Then you can avoid redundancy like this:

Again, you don't know shit about me. You and your holier than thou attitude think you do, but we both know you don't.
So, it's not good to be a scumbag elsewhere, but it's ok for you to be one here.
And a psychic to boot. How do you manage juggling all your responsibilities? So when do you plan on organizing my banning? Not that I really care, but I like to be able to plan ahead.

You want to know why I don't mention personal responsibility for going over the line? Because I didn't cross any line. But what the hell, if you like drawing lines in your imaginary sandbox, go right ahead. You obviuosly like playing the part of the BB police bully. I bet it makes you feel real grown-up.

Am I deleting messages? How would you know, you didn't read any of them anyway.

No, you didn't cross any lines, you dropped your pants and pissed all over them.

Crybaby don't cover it for this bullshit. What, I'll bet "troll" is your fucking password. "It's not in my nature to take shit from anyone" I am fucking dying here - what are you, johngoddamnwayne? I'll bet you've memorized all the words to "The Outlaw Josie Wales". I'm just waiting for you to accidentally type " . . . dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy."

I think I remember reading a post here about not jumping in on a thread where the "established" members were fucking with an "asshat" because you might not have all the facts. Well, with the linked CR thread, same thing. There was a lot of history between me and those others involved in the thread that you obviously don't know about, not that it's any of your business. I can smoke and joke with the best of them, but most of those threads began with them attacking me and my positions on several topics, as well as my career etc. I was giving it right back. It's not in my nature to take shit from anyone. HP was the same kind of crap. They expected me to take shit from people and not return fire, and I was banned for it. BTW, I was only banned from hp once. I chose not to return because they wanted me to ask, or more accurately, beg to get back in. I never even considered going back to that shithole.
This BB seems to have a lot in common with HP. Same shit, different handles.

if this what you really think this, why aren't you long goddamn gone?? jeezusfuckinshit, do we all seem that stupid to you? You're not gone because you like this shit. Yep, YOU FUCKING LIKE BEING DISSED AND DISSING BACK. This has nothing to with cigars for you, bud. Absoutely zero. It's all about the drama, queen.

[SmokinDVM]

Sdvm - If you think anyone here is being obsequious, who the hell do you think any of us might be playing toady to? I've got a built in, deeply ingrained, respect that borders on awe and reverence for vets - I grew up on a cattle ranch and have worked side-by-side with several, but the more you talk, and this almost feels like heresy, the less I like you. And it ain't got nothing to do with anyone else's views. It's got everything to do with the character and reputation you're defining for yourself right here before my very eyes. Now before you go to any great lengths telling me how much you don't give a shit, you should re-read this post you've conveniently chosen to ignore:

Whos ass do I think you're kissing? How about you, shaggy, cnb, and a few other supposedly respected members here involved in your sad little cigar bb thought police circle jerk.
You don't like me? That really hurts. Look, I came here at bpp's invitation, and was being very low key. I made a couple of political comments, in the political forum, and was quickly asked to back off. I then spent some time mostly reading posts, adding my comments very sparingly. Some people here had already decided they didn't like me because of posts made on another bb that they didn't like the tone of. Do I really care if they like me? NO. Whichever post/s they think I crossed the line with, or pissed on, must have ruffled their fragile feathers. Most of those posts were made while defending previous attacks against my own views. That would demonstrate a prejudice against my views, which admittedly aren't usually in the majority on cigar bb's, before I ever posted in your little sandbox. Now most people are adult enough to be able to tolerate others views without totally melting down. Obviously not the case here, even though everyone here claims to be an adult.
What it all boils down to is this... either you think I crossed some imaginary line on another bb, and decided to attack me here, or you don't like the way I have responded to your buddies, who think I crossed that imaginary line, and decided to attack me here for their benefit. Who made you and your buds the official cigar bb line drawers? Seems like a few people on a sad little power trip.

And grow a set and fucking reply like a fucking grownup, instead of this bullshit drivel:

Your buddies little quote, that you seem so fond of, is comparing apples to oranges. The point is, no matter what posts I made on another bb, who makes the call as to what line was crossed, and who really decided to bring it all over here. I don't make any apologies for any posts I've made, here or at any other bb.

Then you can avoid redundancy like this:

When you children stop repeating the same drivel, I'll be able to quit repeating my replies.

No, you didn't cross any lines, you dropped your pants and pissed all over them.

This has already been covered, but since I know you like it so much, I'll repeat myself, WHOSE LINE DID I CROSS, AND WHO APPOINTED THEM THE OFFICIAL LINE COP?

Crybaby don't cover it for this bullshit. What, I'll bet "troll" is your fucking password. "It's not in my nature to take shit from anyone" I am fucking dying here - what are you, johngoddamnwayne? I'll bet you've memorized all the words to "The Outlaw Josie Wales". I'm just waiting for you to accidentally type " . . . dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy."

Why don't you try using "troll" as my password, and I'll try using "holier than thou" as yours.
Do you take shit from people? I'm not talking the "ass kissing daisy chain" that goes on around here, I'm talking actual attacks. And what the fucks wrong with "Outlaw Josie Wales"? John Wayne, however, sucks.

if this what you really think this, why aren't you long goddamn gone?? jeezusfuckinshit, do we all seem that stupid to you? You're not gone because you like this shit. Yep, YOU FUCKING LIKE BEING DISSED AND DISSING BACK. This has nothing to with cigars for you, bud. Absoutely zero. It's all about the drama, queen.

First, what the hell is "if this what you really think this"?
Second, not everyone here seems that stupid to me, just a select few.
And in closing, I did come here for the cigar content, I participated in a post to express my support of a concern that others here had, and was attacked by you and your ilk about totally unrelated bullshit. Now who's really here for what?

[Shagaroo]

And in closing, I did come here for the cigar content, I participated in a post to express my support of a concern that others here had, and was attacked by you and your ilk about totally unrelated bullshit. Now who's really here for what?

Like I said, when all else fails, lie. Nobody attacked you and nobody mentioned your reputation until this thread sparky. Unfortunately for you, you cannot delete everybodys posts on the Cigars removed from online thesauri thread. Please, quote from that thread anywhere someone attacked you, your views, your beliefs, or brought up your reputation from other forums. Step up junior, show this beat down you and Sid keep claiming you took. Until this thread, that thread is the only one we had any conversation in.

Am I deleting messages? How would you know, you didn't read any of them anyway.

I didn't read them? You really shouldn't lie when you are not any good at it. We had, as mentioned above, a direct converation in the above linked thread. Try again junior.

[Shagaroo]

shag..wtf...you've turned into the hall monitor....

....you pissed on him when he first got here..you can't fucking deny it.....you're turning into an asshole,imho..

Cry me a river Sid. If it was anyone else with a rep like his you would be leading the charge and you know it. It's your "buddy" so you are willing to overlook his garbage making you nothing but a hyporcrite.

[SmokinDVM]

Until this thread, that thread is the only one we had any conversation in.

OK, I'm gonna type this again for the reading impaired.
I came here at bpp's invite. I participated in a political thread, ON THE POLITICAL FORUM. I promptly recieved a PM stating that I should back off the old guys on the thread because I might get them too riled up. I BACKED OFF. Then I spent a bit of time reading, and posting sparingly. I happen to add my comments to this thread, and get attacked supposedly because of my sig. The excuse for attacking me because of my sig was because you and your buds thought I crossed your imaginary line, while posting on another bb. Is that timeline clear enough for you? Take your time and let it sink in.

I didn't read them? You really shouldn't lie when you are not any good at it. We had, as mentioned above, a direct converation in the above linked thread.

I told you before I don't lie. You're really full of yourself to think I would need to lie to you.
Any of the other posts, in other than the political forum, that you read? Didn't think so. So, you spend most of your time trolling people in the political forum, so you can accuse them of trolling people in the political forum, and on other bb's? Nice.

[bigpoppapuff]

barry,it's evident that shagaroo doesn't like you.....as the self-appointed hall monitor for our bb,he made that clear from your first day here....put him on ignore and try to enjoy yourself......

[ggiese]

barry,it's evident that shagaroo doesn't like you.....as the self-appointed hall monitor for our bb,he made that clear from your first day here....put him on ignore and try to enjoy yourself......

Sid - Barry can't POSSIBLY put Shag on ignore and ENJOY - it doesn't appear that's possible. From my perspective, he's here for the drama, and he's obviously getting his fill of it.

I'm still trying to figure out what LINES you speak of, Dr. B. I don't know that there are any here - certainly if there were "lines", those lines are crossed here all the time - before you got here and most likely long after you leave. The reason I like this board is because we can have frank discussions. However, going into full meltdown, spitting and cussing, over some of the most incredibly stupid reasons doesn't help your cause with the general community at all.

I respect Shag's opinions - I don't always agree with them, but I do respect them. Same as Sid's. That came from interactions with the both of them. That didn't happen in the first few weeks of interacting with either. I would hope, Dr. B, you would spend some more time interacting with Shag with an open mind quietly observing him. While you might not always agree with him, I think you might find he's not what you believe him to be...

And Sid - I can't believe I'm watching you toss out the baby with the bathwater. Is there some kind of ill will you've been harboring about Shag I didn't know about? I'd say from reading your most recent comments it appears your opinion of him has drastically changed...

[basil]

lmao! The original intent of BMF's intent was to illustrate how you compare apples to oranges. Then you steal the line, like you think no one will notice or something. You don't need a bad rep from any other BB - you bullshit stands alone here to mark you as a pathetic, belligerent, asshole, given to circular logic, who'd rather be right than happy. What a piece. No one has given you any shit you haven't asked for. You claim to be offended and then you say, "please sir, may I have another?"

Your political views and your sig tag have nothing to do with any of this. Hell, I have an autographed copy of Ivins' Shrub, and I read the Texas Observer; we share some views. But your sense of entitlement (and I know you'll deftly and smugly turn this around and accuse us of the same thing) completely undermines anything relevant you might have to say about politics, cigars, or the price of fucking tea in China.

[Shagaroo]

Like I said, when all else fails, lie. Nobody attacked you and nobody mentioned your reputation until this thread sparky. Unfortunately for you, you cannot delete everybodys posts on the Cigars removed from online thesauri thread. Please, quote from that thread anywhere someone attacked you, your views, your beliefs, or brought up your reputation from other forums. Step up junior, show this beat down you and Sid keep claiming you took. Until this thread, that thread is the only one we had any conversation in.

I did indeed misread the post I quoted that I made this response to. My apologies for the above post. The rest, however, stands.

[Shagaroo]

I told you before I don't lie. You're really full of yourself to think I would need to lie to you. Any of the other posts, in other than the political forum, that you read? Didn't think so. So, you spend most of your time trolling people in the political forum, so you can accuse them of trolling people in the political forum, and on other bb's? Nice.

You keep telling yourself that junior. Whatever gets you through the night. Funny, the useful animal posts you made, that actually contributed to the site, you chose to delete, but have left all the garbage you have spewed in this thread. Good choice junior!

[cigar no baka]

hey...he hates gshrub almost as much as i do...but he does talk about cigars,animals,current events.......and is a good trader...he's a veteran of cigar bb's going back to the jrbb....he can stand up for himself...but what pisses me off is that he got pissed on because of his sig tag....i'm getting tired of this bullshit...really i am...why not let baka and shag decide who gets to stay and who has to go...if they want me gone..i'm gone..

I don't want you gone, nor do I want SDVM gone, I just want the bullshit to stop.

Let me put it this way. When you join a new group, do you come in with t-shirt on that says "Repugs are ignorant fuckers, and so are all dumbya lovers" and then expect everyone to respect and like you? No, you made your bed, now lie in it. If your going to wear your most extreme views on your sleeve, don't cry a river when people call you on it.

[cigar no baka]

Whos ass do I think you're kissing? How about you, shaggy, cnb, and a few other supposedly respected members here involved in your sad little cigar bb thought police circle jerk.
You don't like me? That really hurts. Look, I came here at bpp's invitation, and was being very low key. I made a couple of political comments, in the political forum, and was quickly asked to back off. I then spent some time mostly reading posts, adding my comments very sparingly. Some people here had already decided they didn't like me because of posts made on another bb that they didn't like the tone of. Do I really care if they like me? NO. Whichever post/s they think I crossed the line with, or pissed on, must have ruffled their fragile feathers. Most of those posts were made while defending previous attacks against my own views. That would demonstrate a prejudice against my views, which admittedly aren't usually in the majority on cigar bb's, before I ever posted in your little sandbox. Now most people are adult enough to be able to tolerate others views without totally melting down. Obviously not the case here, even though everyone here claims to be an adult.
What it all boils down to is this... either you think I crossed some imaginary line on another bb, and decided to attack me here, or you don't like the way I have responded to your buddies, who think I crossed that imaginary line, and decided to attack me here for their benefit. Who made you and your buds the official cigar bb line drawers? Seems like a few people on a sad little power trip.



Your buddies little quote, that you seem so fond of, is comparing apples to oranges. The point is, no matter what posts I made on another bb, who makes the call as to what line was crossed, and who really decided to bring it all over here. I don't make any apologies for any posts I've made, here or at any other bb.



When you children stop repeating the same drivel, I'll be able to quit repeating my replies.



This has already been covered, but since I know you like it so much, I'll repeat myself, WHOSE LINE DID I CROSS, AND WHO APPOINTED THEM THE OFFICIAL LINE COP?

Why don't you try using "troll" as my password, and I'll try using "holier than thou" as yours.
Do you take shit from people? I'm not talking the "ass kissing daisy chain" that goes on around here, I'm talking actual attacks. And what the fucks wrong with "Outlaw Josie Wales"? John Wayne, however, sucks.



First, what the hell is "if this what you really think this"?
Second, not everyone here seems that stupid to me, just a select few.
And in closing, I did come here for the cigar content, I participated in a post to express my support of a concern that others here had, and was attacked by you and your ilk about totally unrelated bullshit. Now who's really here for what?

What puts the lie to you entire story is you childish, infantile sig tag. You knew it would be a great big FUCK YOU to a lot of the members of this board and wouuld stir up shit. So now you're known here as a shit-stirrer, live with it.

[bigpoppapuff]

big ups to basil....molly ivins!!!!....


i thought that you might be an ann (i'm the devil) coulter fan..


shag jumped on someone who i brought over here within seconds of his coming here....doesn't make me happy.....he doesn't know shit about what was going on at CR...and he's acting like our hall monitor.....

[Shagaroo]

shag jumped on someone who i brought over here within seconds of his coming here....doesn't make me happy.....he doesn't know shit about what was going on at CR...and he's acting like our hall monitor.....

[SmokinDVM]

barry,it's evident that shagaroo doesn't like you.....as the self-appointed hall monitor for our bb,he made that clear from your first day here....put him on ignore and try to enjoy yourself......

shagarific can't be put on ignore, he's an admin/mod.
That's really good. Kinda like having the fox guard the chickens.

However, several other members of the line police are on ignore.
I think I'll start a thread on why I think Karl Rove, Dumbya, and Darth Cheney should all be indicted like the little criminals they are. Or would that be crossing the line?

[bigpoppapuff]

you'd get no argument from me....